[Physics] Physics Digest, Vol 5, Issue 2

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Fri Feb 10 06:04:24 CET 2017


Hi Physics thinkers,

I’m very excited to join this Physics Group with Ruud’s invitation.  Thanks, Ruud!
Please let me know if I’m contributing correctly.

I’m Dr. David Levitt, MIT ScD.  I was a student of Prof. Marvin Minsky, founder of the Artificial Intelligence field.

Jesus, this is the first paper I’m looking at, and it’s very exciting to see G derived this way, including confirmation that the units are correct.

In a moment I’ll post a draft paper for simple relativistic Gravity, that could practically be derived from a dimensional analysis of G, so it’s likewise exciting to see a natural match.

Warm regards,
David Levitt


> On Feb 6, 2017, at 7:30 AM, Jesus Sanchez <jesus.sanchez.bilbao at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear Mike,
> 
> Thanks for your answer. Do you have any paper/bibliography regarding that? The only dimensionless G I have found, is the parameter αG,  the gravitational coupling constant (Gme2/hc). This is not exactly G, as it has the mass of the electron included.
> 
> What the papers attached (Silva's and mine) deduct, is an equation that relates G with the fine structure constant αs (that depends on e, h, c and ε0). These are the first papers I have found, that relate the gravitational G with solely electromagnetic parameters with success. 
> 
> G = [(4π2 αs2 ħc) ∕ mp2] exp[ παs ∕ (2√2) – 1 ∕ (√2αs)]=6,67408 ×10− 11 m3 k g− 1 s− 2
> 
> Thanks and best regards,
> Jesús Sánchez
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 08:50:30 +0000
> From: mikelawr at freenetname.co.uk <mailto:mikelawr at freenetname.co.uk>
> To: <physics at tuks.nl <mailto:physics at tuks.nl>>
> Subject: Re: [Physics] Citation of Calculation of the Gravitational
>         Constant G Using Electromagnetic Parameters
> Message-ID: <10705ce79e5fdba004d69964301e36d3 at freenetname.co.uk <mailto:10705ce79e5fdba004d69964301e36d3 at freenetname.co.uk>>
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> 
> 
> 
> Jesus,
> 
> If you use dimensional analysis, you will find that G is a
> dimensionless constant that can be eliminated from all equations by
> adjustment of SI units.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 04.02.2017 20:20,
> jesus.sanchez.bilbao at gmail.com <mailto:jesus.sanchez.bilbao at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Dear Doctors,
> >
> > I inform
> that my paper "Calculation of gravitational constant G using
> electromagnetic parameters" (email below) has been cited in the attached
> publication:
> >
> > "Links of Gravity with Electromagnetic and Weak
> Couplings at Low Energies" by P. R. Silva (Universidade Federal de Minas
> Gerais).
> >
> > http://rxiv.org/abs/1701.0613 <http://rxiv.org/abs/1701.0613> [1]
> >
> >
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312897107_Links_of_Gravity_with_Electromagnetic_and_Weak_Couplings_at_Low_Energies <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312897107_Links_of_Gravity_with_Electromagnetic_and_Weak_Couplings_at_Low_Energies>
> [2]
> >
> > In this publication it can be read in page 2 the following:
> 
> >
> > "This paper is largely inspired in a previous one published by
> Jes?s S?nchez
> >
> > [2], and entitled: "Calculation of the gravitational
> constant G using
> >
> > electromagnetic parameters". The results obtained
> in section 2, reproduces
> >
> > S?nchez result [2], but we have used an
> alternative path as a means to get
> >
> > it."
> >
> > So in the attached
> paper, it is obtained the same result as equation for G (obtained in my
> paper), but using a different method.
> >
> > Thanks and best regards,
> >
> 
> > Jes?s S?nchez
> >
> > Enviado desde Correo [3] para Windows 10
> >
> >
> DE: jesus.sanchez.bilbao at gmail.com <mailto:jesus.sanchez.bilbao at gmail.com> [4]
> > ENVIADO: viernes, 30 de
> diciembre de 2016 10:39
> > PARA: physics at tuks.nl <mailto:physics at tuks.nl> [5]
> > ASUNTO:
> Calculation of the Gravitational Constant G Using
> ElectromagneticParameters
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I am glad to inform you
> about the publication of the paper "Calculation of the Gravitational
> Constant G Using Electromagnetic Parameters" . I hope you enjoy it!
> Abstract and link to the journal below.
> >
> > Thanks and best regards,
> 
> >
> > Jes?s S?nchez
> >
> >
> http://www.scirp.org/Journal/PaperInformation.aspx?PaperID=73131 <http://www.scirp.org/Journal/PaperInformation.aspx?PaperID=73131> [6]
> >
> 
> > ABSTRACT
> >
> > In this paper, we will derive the following formula
> for the value of the gravitational constant _G_: (1). This equation has
> only 0.81% error compared to the common accepted value [1]. The
> parameters in the equation are the following: the fine structure
> constant, _q_ the elementary charge, the mass of the electron, the
> permittivity of the free space, _e_ the exponential function and the
> relation between a circumference and its diameter. Values attached: [2],
> [1], [1], [1], [3], [4], (Planck constant) [1], (speed of light) [1]. As
> it can be checked, all of them are electromagnetic or mathematical
> constants and properties of the electron. No constant related to gravity
> has been used to arrive to this value. This formula has only 0.81% error
> numerically and has the correct units. And it is the output of this
> paper. To get to this formula, we will consider space as being composed
> by the particles that occupy it. These particles include mass particles
> and force carriers (as photons). The non-uniform distribution of these
> particles creates distortions in space. These distortions create the
> warping of space, making gravity appear as an emergent phenomenon.
> Having in mind these considerations for a special case (an isolated
> electron emitting photons) we get to this formula that validates the
> assumptions.
> >
> > KEYWORDS
> >
> > Quantum Gravity [7], Concept of Space
> [8], Gravitational Constant [9], Emergent Gravity [10], Size of a Photon
> [11]
> >
> > CITE THIS PAPER
> >
> > S?nchez, J. (2017) Calculation of the
> Gravitational Constant _G_ Using Electromagnetic Parameters. _Journal of
> High Energy Physics, Gravitation and Cosmology_, 3, 87-95. doi:
> 10.4236/jhepgc.2017.31012 [12].
> >
> > Enviado desde Correo [13] para
> Windows 10
> 
> 
> 
> Links:
> ------
> [1] http://rxiv.org/abs/1701.0613 <http://rxiv.org/abs/1701.0613>
> [2]
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312897107_Links_of_Gravity_with_Electromagnetic_and_Weak_Couplings_at_Low_Energies <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312897107_Links_of_Gravity_with_Electromagnetic_and_Weak_Couplings_at_Low_Energies>
> [3]
> https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
> [4]
> mailto:jesus.sanchez.bilbao at gmail.com <mailto:jesus.sanchez.bilbao at gmail.com>
> [5] mailto:physics at tuks.nl <mailto:physics at tuks.nl>
> [6]
> http://www.scirp.org/Journal/PaperInformation.aspx?PaperID=73131 <http://www.scirp.org/Journal/PaperInformation.aspx?PaperID=73131>
> [7]
> http://www.scirp.org/Journal/articles.aspx?searchCode=Quantum+Gravity&searchField=keyword&page=1&SKID=0 <http://www.scirp.org/Journal/articles.aspx?searchCode=Quantum+Gravity&searchField=keyword&page=1&SKID=0>
> [8]
> http://www.scirp.org/Journal/articles.aspx?searchCode=+Concept+of+Space&searchField=keyword&page=1&SKID=0 <http://www.scirp.org/Journal/articles.aspx?searchCode=+Concept+of+Space&searchField=keyword&page=1&SKID=0>
> [9]
> http://www.scirp.org/Journal/articles.aspx?searchCode=+Gravitational+Constant&searchField=keyword&page=1&SKID=0 <http://www.scirp.org/Journal/articles.aspx?searchCode=+Gravitational+Constant&searchField=keyword&page=1&SKID=0>
> [10]
> http://www.scirp.org/Journal/articles.aspx?searchCode=+Emergent+Gravity&searchField=keyword&page=1&SKID=0 <http://www.scirp.org/Journal/articles.aspx?searchCode=+Emergent+Gravity&searchField=keyword&page=1&SKID=0>
> [11]
> http://www.scirp.org/Journal/articles.aspx?searchCode=+Size+of+a+Photon&searchField=keyword&page=1&SKID=0 <http://www.scirp.org/Journal/articles.aspx?searchCode=+Size+of+a+Photon&searchField=keyword&page=1&SKID=0>
> [12]
> http://dx.doi.org/10.4236/jhepgc.2017.31012 <http://dx.doi.org/10.4236/jhepgc.2017.31012>
> [13]
> https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
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