<html><head><base href="x-msg://17/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Olli,<div><br></div><div>So in your view the universe is growing?</div><div><br></div><div>---Maurice---</div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 20, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Olli Santavuori wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div bgcolor="#ffffff" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>What do you think of this:</div><div> </div><div>The universe does not exspand. The known movements of the galaxies doesn't mean that. Their explanation is that this simply must happen in the limitless universe. The movements are normal properties of the limitlessness of the universe. This holds even if there is some truth in the red sift. </div><div> </div><div>Olli Santavuori</div><blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="mdaniel@masterinventor.com" href="mailto:mdaniel@masterinventor.com">Master Inventor</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="physics@tuks.nl" href="mailto:physics@tuks.nl">General Physics and Natural Philosophy discussion list</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, October 20, 2016 7:18 PM</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Physics] The Big Bang Theory</div><div><br></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">Dear Physics and Natural Philosophy Discussion List Members,</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">Here is my opinion on the Big Bang Theory.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">The Big Bang (BB) Theory violates all the major laws of physics. <br> <br>The BB appears out of nothing<br> - Violation of conservation of energy<br>This point of super hot energy begins to expand<br> - Why is it hot?<br>The BB is super massive and expanding<br> - Violation of General Relativity, it should form a black hole.<br>The BB goes through a period of faster-then-light super expansion<br> - Violation of Special Relativity, nothing can travel faster than light<br>The expand ball of energy starts to condense into hydrogen gas<br> - Violation of atomic physics. It should condense into the higher elements,<br> particularly iron which has the lowest energy state, just like in a super nova.<br> <br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "></span>Subconsciously the cosmologist are basing their cosmology on the Christian Geneses where God said: “Let there be light!” The only evidence the cosmologest can give is the existence of a red shift. But physics teaches that there are at least three ways to produce a red shift:<br>- The high speed movement of an object away from the observer<br>- The red shift produced by a high gravitational field<br>- And the red shift produced by the curvature of space<br> <br>William R. Corliss in his book “Stars, Galaxies, Cosmos: A Catalog of Astronomical Anomalies” published by the Sourcebook Project, 1987, pages 106-126, points out a number of observations of Quasars with anomalous red shifts <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>that don’t fit any of the known causes of red shifts. So there is good evidence that there are other ways to produce a red shift. But a true scientist in our culture never admits to not knowing something, so the Quasar observations are ignored. <br> It is clear to me, and I’m sure many others, that the BB is a religious concept and that the universe is more or less steady state and goes back to infinity in both time and space (or close to infinity!) (Time and space may curve in on themselves on a big scale but events are not repeated.) </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">Continue to enjoy your discussions!</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">---Maurice---</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font></div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font><div><span><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span><Maurice Photo, Small Size.jpg></span></font></span><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4">Maurice Daniel, Master Inventor</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><a href="mailto:mdaniel@masterinventor.com">mdaniel@masterinventor.com</a></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></font></div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></font></div><br><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><hr><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>_______________________________________________<br>Physics mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Physics@tuks.nl">Physics@tuks.nl</a><br><a href="http://mail.tuks.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/physics">http://mail.tuks.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/physics</a><br></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br>Physics mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Physics@tuks.nl">Physics@tuks.nl</a><br><a href="http://mail.tuks.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/physics">http://mail.tuks.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/physics</a><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br><div>
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