<div dir="ltr">Hello Hans and Arend.<div>and fellow colleagues who are interested in expansion of matter.<br><div><br></div><div>I would agree on Hans oct 23: quote<font color="#0000ff"> "<span style="font-size:12.8px"><i>Your theory about expansion of matter leaves me with the question about what you understand by matter</i>.</span><i style="font-size:12.8px">I would define it as everything in universe that features mass. And I consider the property of having mass as having the capability to deform the field that represents our living space."</i></font></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"> If matter expands I think that the particles are expanding equally with space: atoms, molecules expand equally with space. So there are no relative changes except the energy (aether-field) that is converted to mass. In Mind-blowing expansion I say it this way:  </span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#990000"><span lang="EN-US">"<i>Thus, we come
to the idea that not only is </i></span><i><a href="http://www.space.com/25103-freaky-physics-gravitational-waves-inflation-discovery.html" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">the universe expanding</span></a><span lang="EN-US"> with all the associated stellar systems, but so is
all matter—including the atoms and all particles which built matter. The atoms
from which we ourselves have been built, the text that you now read, your eyes
registering this text, the atoms that form your sight-capacity and the nerves
that bring this text to somewhere in your brain where a feverish process now
starts, a process that we try to imagine—all matter is expanding, and yes,
exploding. </span><span lang="EN-US">This idea is the key for this expansion theory: our
brain is part of the expansion</span><span lang="EN-US"><span></span></span></i></font></p>

<i><font color="#990000"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif">Could this really be true?  We start to search for some facts that must </span><span style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><a href="https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/balloon-analogy-good-bad-ugly/" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">prove that this cannot be true</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif">.</span><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></font></i></div><div><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><i><font color="#990000"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">In par. 4 and
5, we have seen that the expansion of the universe also exists HERE and NOW. We
interpret this as acceleration on the surface of large masses and experience
the expansion as gravitation. ALL matter, including atoms, are expanding and
cause the expansion that leads to acceleration away from the center of the
mass, causing inertia of objects on that mass. </span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The atoms
themselves increase in mass. This means that the protons and neutrons increase
in mass, and the electrons increase in mass; thereby, the distance between
electrons and neutrons increases. Also, the inertia of mass increases.</span></p>

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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif">We see, therefore, that here too the speed in a
circular movement is the partner of expansion.</span><br></font></i></span></div><div><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><font color="#990000"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif">A
number of physicists try to give a description of what happened during the
start of the universe. They calculate a kind of explosion that took place in
10-43 second. Now don't forget 10^-43 second means:
0.0000000000000000000000000000<wbr>0000000000000001 second. Looking from our time
and place, it </span><span style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_expansion_of_space" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">really looks like an enormous explosion</span></a></span></i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><i>. But if we could look at that big bang moment
to our galaxy right now, we would see the exact same explosion. This is because
this all is happening 14 billion years ago. We should shrink our consciousness:
our brain. The expansion theory, as in this brochure described, supports this
way on one hand the theory of the expanding universe of Hubble and on the other
hand the steady state theory of Herman Bondi, Thomas Gold and Fred Hoyle. They
say that in the universe there is a constant creation of matter: the steady
state theory." </i></span></font></span></span>These are some quotes from Mind-blowing gravitation.</div><div><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><br></span></span></span></div><div><font style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" color="#000000"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif">Arend Lammertink's quote </span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.8px">On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 1:32 PM, to Ruud Loeffen</span><span style="font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif;font-size:11pt">: </span></font></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><i><font color="#0000ff">"I think this is a very interesting idea well worth considering. As you</font></i></span></div><i><font style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" color="#0000ff"><span style="font-size:12.8px">probably know, I work from the principal postulate that there is a</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">real, physical aether which behaves like an ideal non-viscous</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">*compressible* fluid or gas. From this principle, particles are</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">predicted to consist of a number of vortexes, such as shown in this</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">picture I found on Nassim Haramein's website:</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><a href="http://www.tuks.nl/img/dualtorus.gif" rel="noreferrer" style="font-size:12.8px" target="_blank">http://www.tuks.nl/img/dualtor<wbr>us.gif</a><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">From this perspective, the density of the aether would decrease in</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">direct relation to the size of the expanding universe. And that would</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">mean matter would expand at the same rate as the expanding universe.</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">However, note that I'm not saying the universe IS expanding, I don't</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">know that. What I'm saying is that IF it's expanding, I would say</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"></font></i><div><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px;font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><i><font color="#0000ff">matter would also be expanding."</font></i></span></span></span></span></div><div><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><br></span></span></span></div><div><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif;font-size:14.6667px">note added by me oct 25 2016</span><span style="font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif;font-size:11pt">: Matter (mass) acts like an aether-cleaner; (it's not a vacuum-cleaner </span>☺<span style="font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif;font-size:11pt">, but it's the aether that is sucked up by the mass (small mass on quantum-scale or big on planet-scale). The effect of the cleaning is diminishing aether that faints down by 4 PI r^2 distance from the mass.) In this way it causes a depression. This depression causes attraction (for example tide differences in the ocean)</span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0cm"><span lang="EN-US">See: </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_in_special_relativity" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Mass_in_special_relativity</span></a><span lang="EN-US"> :<span></span></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0cm"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(37,37,37);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">“Then, it was pointed out by Thomson and Searle that
this electromagnetic mass also increases with velocity. This was further
elaborated by<span class="m_-5595779346260184467gmail-m_6544301855801623464gmail-m_6873219356770316102gmail-m_-3085209797025974768gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendrik_Lorentz" title="Hendrik Lorentz" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Hendrik Lorentz</span></a><span class="m_-5595779346260184467gmail-m_6544301855801623464gmail-m_6873219356770316102gmail-m_-3085209797025974768gmail-apple-converted-space"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(37,37,37);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></i></span><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(37,37,37);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">(1899, 1904) in the framework of<span class="m_-5595779346260184467gmail-m_6544301855801623464gmail-m_6873219356770316102gmail-m_-3085209797025974768gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory" title="Lorentz ether theory" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Lorentz ether theory</span></a><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(37,37,37);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">. He defined mass as the ratio of
force to acceleration, not as the ratio of momentum to velocity, so he needed
to distinguish between the mass<span class="m_-5595779346260184467gmail-m_6544301855801623464gmail-m_6873219356770316102gmail-m_-3085209797025974768gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i><i><span style="font-size:9pt;line-height:107%"><span id="m_-5595779346260184467gmail-m_6544301855801623464gmail-m_6873219356770316102gmail-m_-3085209797025974768gmail-_x0000_t75">
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aether and the object, and<span class="m_-5595779346260184467gmail-m_6544301855801623464gmail-m_6873219356770316102gmail-m_-3085209797025974768gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span>c<span class="m_-5595779346260184467gmail-m_6544301855801623464gmail-m_6873219356770316102gmail-m_-3085209797025974768gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span>is the<span class="m_-5595779346260184467gmail-m_6544301855801623464gmail-m_6873219356770316102gmail-m_-3085209797025974768gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_light" title="Speed of light" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">speed of light</span></a><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(37,37,37);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">)”<span></span></span></i></p>

</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I am interested in Quantum Mechanics but I don't understand many premises in that field of science. Sometimes I think that our solar-system could have evolved from an expanded atom with of course main changes in physical appearance during a process of expanding in billions of years. The solar-system is -by the way- much more complicated as previously thought with Jupiter with 67 moons, Saturn 62 moons, the Kuiperbelt, the Oort-cloud and all the electromagnetic fields that emerge from sun, planets and moons. <span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif">Keep
in mind that these masses all are </span><span style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><a href="https://youtu.be/0jHsq36_NTU?t=41s" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">“following” our sun in her orbit</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"> through our galaxy.</span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><font color="#990000"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif"><b>Stay firmly in your shoes!</b></span><span style="font-family:"adobe devanagari",serif;font-size:11pt"> </span></font></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="m_-5595779346260184467gmail-m_6544301855801623464gmail-m_6873219356770316102gmail-m_-3085209797025974768gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><b>Ruud Loeffen</b></font><div><a href="http://www.human-DNA.org" style="font-size:12.8px" target="_blank">http://www.human-DNA.org</a><br></div></div></div></div>
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