<div dir="ltr"><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Gents </font></div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Please consider my proposal/comments on Lorentz transformation as follows:</font></div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">1. Ellipse is a three dimensional perfect circular motion which we are observing in our space dimension as elliptical motion.</font></div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">2. Velocity of objects in motion shall satisfy the equation v = c(cos<font color="#000000">ф</font><font color="#000000">
+ isin<font color="#000000">ф)</font>
</font></font><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">3.The velocity that we observe in space dimension is v.sin<font color="#000000">ф</font></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">4. The velocity that we do not observe in space dimension is <font color="#222222">c.</font><font color="#222222">cos</font><font color="#000000">ф</font></font></font></font></div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000">5. Lorentz Factor ɣ
= 1/<font color="#222222">cos</font><font color="#000000">ф, is the information coded as geometry of the particle or space. The shape is ellipsoid.</font></font></font></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">6. Eccentricity of the ellipse e = sin<font color="#000000">ф</font></font></font></font></font><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><p><br></p></font></font></font><div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">фo = 0 for Universal reference frame or free space</font></font></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><br><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font></font></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">All other particles are created by phase displacement wrt Universal reference Frame</font></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><br><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font></font></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">For mass |sin<font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000">фo|</font></font></font> = 1/c</font></font></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><br><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font></font></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">For light |cos<font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000">фo|</font></font></font> = 1/c (Now if that is so, then why speed of light is constant? because light is always measure perpendicular to the time axis of matter, which is same for all particle in a particular rest frame)</font></font></font></font></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><br><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><br><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font></font></font></font></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">For proton and electron |sin<font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000">фo| is slightly greater 1/c in values, but big enough to ensure that e/m force is 40th order of magnitude of gravity.</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><br><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Since particle are always phase displaced at rest they experience relative motion wrt absolute reference frame and also wrt to each other since their base phase displacement( фo) differ from each other.</font></div><div><font color="#000000"><br><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">When in relative motion is space dimension, particle experience addition phase displacement due to relative motion in space dimension. Hence now the speed is given by formul</font></div><div><font color="#000000"><br><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#222222">v = ccos(</font><font color="#000000">фo+<font color="#000000">ф)</font></font><font color="#000000"> + isin(<font color="#000000">фo+</font><font color="#000000">ф)</font> </font></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><br><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">This additional increase in phase displacement is the reason for acceleration.</font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><br><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Important Note: All particles are actually phase displaced space itself.</font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">See the below link for tentative geometry.</font></div><div><font color="#000000"><br><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/55i03093z93hc60/Lorentz%20Factor.pdf?dl=0" target="_blank"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">https://www.dropbox.com/s/</font><wbr><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">55i03093z93hc60/Lorentz%</font><wbr><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">20Factor.pdf?dl=0</font></a></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Please do comment and provide your feedback.</font></div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Regards,</font></div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Tufail Abbas<br></font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 December 2016 at 10:12, Ruud Loeffen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rmmloeffen@gmail.com" target="_blank">rmmloeffen@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr">Hello Tom.<div><br></div><div>Thank you for your reply. I visited also again your full explanation on <a style="font-size:13.33px" href="http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/carmam/Hollings.html#lorentz" target="_blank">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/<wbr>carmam/Hollings.html#lorentz</a><span style="font-size:13.33px"> It's good to see that you are struggling with the Lorentz Transformation too. I am happy to see, that you also think it's admissible to relate </span><span style="font-size:13.33px">the Lorentz Transformation</span><span style="font-size:13.33px"> to mass increase. About the calculation of your rocket: I agree on "</span><span style="font-size:12.8px">The mass increase is therefore 0.0000015 Kg or 0.0015 gram". The calculation is correct. Now the question is: If we apply this to the fall acceleration on the surface of the earth: would this lead to an</span><b style="font-size:12.8px"><i> accelerated</i></b><span style="font-size:12.8px"> increase? I think yes: because the outcome is an accelerated velocity in m/s^2. Long time ago, when I started to study these phenomena I learned that the orbital velocity of the planets in fact are accelerated speeds, because they are composed from two directions: one centrifugal (falling) to the earth and one straight forward. Neverteles they are expressed in m/s and v^2 is expressed in m^2/s^2.</span><br><span style="font-size:12.8px"><img width="107" height="108" style="margin-right: 0px;" alt="Inline image 5" src="cid:ii_1591ffe05a5a61a1"> <a href="http://www.shmoop.com/forces-motion/gravity-orbital.html" target="_blank">http://www.shmoop.com/forces-<wbr>motion/gravity-orbital.html</a> <br></span><span style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(250,248,245)">Velocity, acceleration, and force are vector quantities. In centripetal motion, the velocity is tangential to the orbit, and perpendicular to the force and acceleration which are in the same direction, as usual, as related through </span><img style="border: 0px currentColor; border-image: none; font-family: roboto,sans-serif; vertical-align: middle; box-sizing: border-box; background-color: rgb(250, 248, 245);" src="http://media1.shmoop.com/images/physics/physicsbook_forces_latek_103.png"><span style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(250,248,245)">.</span><br><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">The Newtonian Gravitational Constant is expressed in m^3/kg/s^2. You can read this as a change in cubic meter over the mass in kg and in an accelerated way. So the result is: </span><b style="font-size:12.8px"><i>accelerated linear change</i></b><span style="font-size:12.8px">. Transforming the Newtonian Gravitational Constant in to the </span><span style="font-size:13.33px">Lorentz Transformation of mass-energy I keep the same units </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">m^3/kg.s^2 resulting also in an acceleration on the surface 9,8 m/s^2.</span><span style="font-size:13.33px"> Although this is "mind-blowing" and has many implications, this is still an option (for me and also for Stavros Tassos and Tufail Abbas).</span></div><div><span style="font-size:13.33px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:13.33px">I think you are very well informed about the Lorentz Transformation and I appreciate it very much if you would read Mind-blowing Gravitation. You can see that a very small factor gamma can have big results if applied to big masses as our planets. But also applied to our atoms they result in 9,8 m/s^2 acceleration on the surface. Here are three different derivations related to the radius of the earth and the quantity of atoms in one line on the radius (as a sort of educated guess):<br><img width="467" height="330" style="margin-right: 0px;" alt="Inline image 4" src="cid:ii_1591ff1be5c76c55"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:13.33px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:13.33px">I know the chosen magnitudes are a little bit fictitious. It's just to show how the growing of the earth could be a part of the complete "growing" image with also particles involved. That's where we need geologist, chemists and quantum physics.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:13.33px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:13.33px">Note: I am not good in thought experiments about the age of twins and the influence of black holes etc. I strive to keep my reasoning as close as possible to my environment and daily experience. I don't say that it is not useful to extrapolate thoughts to the nearly unimaginable world, but it's not my preferred restframe</span><span style="font-size:13.33px;margin-right:0.2ex;margin-left:0.2ex">😉</span><span style="font-size:13.33px"> I just want to know: why does something fall to the ground if I drop it.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:13.33px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:13.33px">Best regards.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:13.33px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:13.33px">Ruud Loeffen.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:13.33px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:13.33px"> </span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 1:59 AM, <a href="mailto:carmam@tiscali.co.uk" target="_blank">carmam@tiscali.co.uk</a> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carmam@tiscali.co.uk" target="_blank">carmam@tiscali.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">Ruud, From your latest post (that I have seen) :-<span><span><div><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt">"I read several opinions about the way Lorentz Transformation of mass-energy is useful or not. That’s why I put a question on Quora (and gave also an answer): </span><a href="https://www.quora.com/Was-Julian-Schwinger-wrong-when-he-stated-that-increasing-speed-leads-to-increasing-Mass-in-accordance-with-Lorentz-transformation-of-mass-energy/answer/Ruud-Loeffen" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">Was Julian Schwinger wrong when he stated that increasing speed leads to increasing Mass in accordance with Lorentz transformation of mass-energy?</span></a><span class="gmail-m_1138348652936376527m_248208239978716894gmail-m_-2292435457073471752m_2415821438137885305gmail-m_-6583257625491215701m_-6906071637780865996m_-4870662931975027205m_-3560714171535993188m_-2855964561948113150m_6756287997797147991gmail-MsoHyperlink" style="font-size:12.8px"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"> "</span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-m_1138348652936376527m_248208239978716894gmail-m_-2292435457073471752m_2415821438137885305gmail-m_-6583257625491215701m_-6906071637780865996m_-4870662931975027205m_-3560714171535993188m_-2855964561948113150m_6756287997797147991gmail-MsoHyperlink" style="font-size:12.8px"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><br></span></span></div></span></span><div><span style="font-size:14.66px">Increased speed leads to an increase in mass <span style="font-weight:bold">as seen by the essential observer. </span>That is a very important distinction, and one that is overlooked. It is assumed that the essential observer is at the starting point of the rocket (I am using a space rocket here, it could be a particle in a particle accelerator). In a particle accelerator, it is true that the increase in mass is relative to the particle accelerator and t</span><span style="font-size:10pt">herefore the starting point of the particle. With a rocket, the increase in mass is relative to the exhaust, not to the starting point. For a full explanation please go to my web page at </span><span style="font-size:13.33px"><a href="http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/carmam/Hollings.html#lorentz" target="_blank">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/<wbr>carmam/Hollings.html#lorentz</a> . There is an abreviated version here :-</span><br><br>
</div><div>Imagine now a space rocket, which is propelled by ejecting a small amount of matter (the rocket exhaust) at high speed from the rear, so imparting a thrust in the opposite direction. We will assume that the exhaust velocity is 3,000 m/s and the mass of the rocket is 30,000 Kg (very similar to NASA's Mercury-Redstone rockets). Now we can use the Lorentz transformation to find the new mass. The velocity between exhaust and rocket is 3000 m/s, so :-<br><br>m = m0 / sqrt( 1 - ( v / c )^2)<br>m = mass of rocket at velocity v as measured by the essential observer<br>(Remember that Einstein's observer, properly called the essential observer, is always at rest relative to the motive force. In this example therefore, the essential observer is in the same frame as the rocket exhaust).<br>m0 = 30,000 Kg (proper mass of rocket or rest mass when v = 0)<br>v = 3,000 m/s - rocket's velocity relative to the exhaust<br>c = 300,000,000 m/s<br>m = 30000 / sqrt( 1 - (3000 / 3e8)^2) = 30000.0000015000000001125 Kg<br><br>The mass increase is therefore 0.0000015 Kg or 0.0015 gram which is simply not measurable compared to 30,000 kilograms. For all intents and purposes the mass increase is zero. A further point to note here is that the mass increase is measured against the exhaust which is providing the motive force, and no matter what the velocity of the rocket when measured against its starting point (or anything else for that matter), the velocity between rocket and exhaust never changes, so the rocket mass is always 10,000.0000015 Kg (disregarding the loss of mass due to fuel used). In other words, the mass is fixed at 10,000.0000015 Kg for the values used above between rocket and exhaust, and the extra 0.0000015 Kg is an insignificant amount. As there is no significant mass increase with velocity, and certainly no accumulative mass increase, there is no theoretical upper limit to the velocity of the rocket.<br>It therefore follows that as the mass increase is zero, m aproximates very closely to m0. If the acceleration is regulated to 1g for the comfort of the crew, the space ship can reach an enormous velocity, and time on this space ship will pass at exactly the same rate as back at home on earth. "The effects of gravity are indistinguishable from the effects of acceleration" [AE] (with the qualification in section 5). </div><div><br></div><div>Tom Hollings.</div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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