Norman Silliman,<div>You have silly thoughts. If there is one part of physics that cannot do with proper mathematical models, then it is gravity and especially inertia.</div><div>So if you want to dive into that subject then you better learn enough about multidimensional differential calculus. If you do not want to do that, then you better select a different hobby because with gravity without math you can only make a fool of yourself.</div><div>Sincerely yours,</div><div>Hans van Leunen,</div><div>docs.com/hans-van-leunen<br><blockquote style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left:15px;">----Origineel Bericht----<br>Van : silliman@mindsync.com<br>Datum : 16/01/2017 00:04<br>Aan : physics@tuks.nl<br>Onderwerp : Re: [Physics] Start up Task Force Gravitation group<br><br><commented></commented>
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 To Mr Abbas,  Serret and Loeffen,
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 <br>     I am interested in participating  in this topic of gravity.  I bring a group of experimental evidence that
 <br> I find useful for me to narrow down the possibilities of what 'Gravity is' and how 'Gravity works'.
 <br> BUT I come to you with grave doubts in the utility of Mathematics to build theoretical  models.
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 <br>      And since gravity 'looks' exactly like rocket acceleration and centrifuge acceleration, the topic of gravity
 <br> may bleed off into references of 'forces'.
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 <br>     Norman Silliman
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 <br> On 1/15/2017 6:18 AM, Ruud Loeffen wrote:
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   <p class="MsoNormal"><span>As announced earlier in my Email October 23 2016 I want to join forces on the topic of gravitation. I got confirmation from 3 members. So, we are ready to start.<span></span></span></p>
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   <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Tufail Abbas:</span></b><span> Writer of Big Bathroom Universe- The universe is made of an stationary cubic lattice structure through which space and time moves, resulting into all matter and energy that we see.  By developing this framework of cubic lattice structure it has been envisioned that it would possible to express all physical properties (i.e. space, time, energy, charge, momentum, temperature, velocity, force etc.)  in terms of the geometric parameters (i.e. length, surface area, volume, angle, orientation, cycles) of the base structure. The force of gravity or any other force is caused due to movement of space through mass (or charge) to extra dimensions which is apparently observed as the state of rest in our optically visible dimensions.<br><b>Olivier Serret:</b></span><font face="arial,
              helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;">engineer, holds up a neo-Newtonian approach: basically, it is the Newtonian mechanics, except than gravitational mass is different from the inertial mass. It allows to demonstrate the Lorentz factor</span><span class="gmail-apple-converted-space"><span style="background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;"> </span></span><span style="line-height: 107.0%;background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;">γ</span></font><span style="background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">, a new rule for the velocities addition, the synchrotron radiation and the perihelion precession of Mercury</font><span style="font-family: calibri , sans-serif;font-style: italic;color: black;">(</span></span><span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3xZ5r1hi9s" title="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3xZ5r1hi9s"><em><span style="font-family: calibri , sans-serif;background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3xZ5r1hi9s</span></em></a></span><em><span style="font-family: calibri , sans-serif;color: black;background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;">). </span></em><font face="arial,
              helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;">The interest of this theory is to be in coherence </span><span>with</span><span style="background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;"> the universal time of the Quantum Mechanics (and of course of the Newtonian mechanics).</span></font><span style="background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;"><br></span><b><span>Stavros Tassos:</span></b><span></span><span style="background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;">Writer of the Excess Mass Stress Tectonics - EMST model, whereby the waving at light speed c=299792458 m/s and under constant stretching space is the infinite source of all mass. Energy and matter are sine waveforms of local anisotropy in the elastic, large-scale isotropic continuum, which is lossless and has infinite elasticity to any velocity lower than c, and infinite rigidity to any velocity equal or greater than c. Earth's inner core is an equilibrium high tension-frequency location, wherein energy - unpaired standing or travelling waves transform into matter - paired standing waves which are added, in a solid-state, atom-by-atom around the core.</span><b><i><span style="font-size: 7.5pt;line-height: 107.0%;font-family: verdana , sans-serif;color: black;background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;"><span></span></span></i></b></p>
   <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Ruud Loeffen:</span></b><span> The central question of my studies has always been “How does the human mind perceive the surrounding world and regulate the interaction between human beings and the environment?” Another item I studied is gravitation and cosmology, writing a booklet about this: "Mind-blowing Gravitation. Gravitation equals expansion" to demonstrate the possibility that the Lorentz transformation of mass-energy could play a key role in expansion of matter. To gain cooperation on the topic of Gravitation I support this start up on Gravitation.<span></span></span></p>
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   <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 12.0pt;line-height: 107.0%;">Our purpose:<span></span></span></b></p>
   <p class="gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst"><span>1.<span style="font-variant-numeric: normal;font-stretch: normal;font-size: 7.0pt;line-height: normal;">       </span></span><span>We will form a <b>“Task Force Gravitation” </b>with 4 – 7 members with a widespread range of sciences. </span><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;line-height: 107.0%;font-family: arial , sans-serif;background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;">Members of this Task Force are willing to<font color="#000000"> </font></span><font color="#000000"><strong><span style="font-family: calibri , sans-serif;background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;">share their criticism</span></strong><span style="background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;"> <b>about the current explanations of Gravitation</b></span><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;line-height: 107.0%;font-family: arial , sans-serif;background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;"><b>, and exchange their ideas, equations and calculations<span class="gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span>about Gravitation</b></span></font><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;line-height: 107.0%;font-family: arial , sans-serif;background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;"><b><font color="#000000">.</font>  Members also must be willing to let lose the own theory</b>. (period: January 16 - February 1)</span><span style="font-family: arial , sans-serif;background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;"> </span><span><span></span></span></p>
   <p class="gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span>2.<span style="font-variant-numeric: normal;font-stretch: normal;font-size: 7.0pt;line-height: normal;">       </span></span><span>We will prepare a document <b>“Startup Gravitation”</b> that should provide a brief overview of status regarding understanding of gravity and the proposed way forward. We will try to create a new paper. Probably we need some elements of different theories to put together. Some parts to combine, some parts to throw away, some parts to change. (period February 1 - April 1)<span></span></span></p>
   <p class="gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"><span>3.<span style="font-variant-numeric: normal;font-stretch: normal;font-size: 7.0pt;line-height: normal;">       </span></span><span>We will write a document <b>“Foundation for gravitation”. </b><br> It's about macro objects and elementary particles, radiation, waves and the aether field. Macro and micro should connect as gravity starts at the center of the nucleus and extends to farthest region of the Universe. Most important aim is to find <b>irrefutable evidence</b> for this theory that gives solid base and is understandable for laymen and journalists.</span><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;line-height: 107.0%;font-family: arial , sans-serif;background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;"> (period April 1 - December 1)</span><span><span></span></span></p>
   <p class="MsoNormal"><span>We welcome somebody with knowledge of following mathematical stuff as related to physics: Vector Algebra, Riemann Geometry, Complex Numbers, Various derivations of Pi, Circumference of Ellipse, Zeta Function, Hilbert Spaces.<span></span></span></p>
   <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14.0pt;line-height: 107.0%;background-image: initial;background-position: initial;background-size: initial;background-repeat: initial;background-origin: initial;background-clip: initial;">possible connections with theories of other members</span><span>:<span></span></span></p>
   <p class="gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst"><span>a)<span style="font-variant-numeric: normal;font-stretch: normal;font-size: 7.0pt;line-height: normal;">       </span></span><span>Constant length of photon and transformation from Euclidean to space-time format; Hans van Leunen<span></span></span></p>
   <p class="gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span>b)<span style="font-variant-numeric: normal;font-stretch: normal;font-size: 7.0pt;line-height: normal;">      </span></span><span>acceleration and gravitation; Mike Lawrence<span></span></span></p>
   <p class="gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"><span>c)<span style="font-variant-numeric: normal;font-stretch: normal;font-size: 7.0pt;line-height: normal;">       </span></span><span>aether and field; vortex phenomena Arend Lammertink<span></span></span></p>
   <p class="MsoNormal"><span>We will welcome members who want to join this Task Force. Please pay attention to point 1: "Members also must be willing to let lose the own theory”.</span></p>
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    <span style="font-size: 12.8px;">January 16 - February 1 we aim to make our group definitive. </span>
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    <span style="font-size: 12.8px;">In the next step </span>
    <b style="font-size: 12.8px;">“Startup Gravitation” </b>
    <span style="font-size: 12.8px;">(period February 1 - April 1)</span>
    <font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 12.8px;"> I will make a list of questions for step 2, that the members can edit also.</span><span style="font-size: 12.8px;"> To continue to step 3 (the document) we will make an outline for the document with all relevant chapters and especially we will try to find </span></font>
    <span style="font-size: 12.8px;"><b>irrefutable evidence</b> for this theory that gives solid base and is understandable for laymen and journalists.</span>
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