<div dir="ltr">Hello Mike and Jesus.<div><br></div><div>I like the way you work together in this very interesting knowledge about gravitational mass and inertial mass and the SI units. This could be an important approach in understanding the foundation of Gravitation.</div><div><br></div><div>In the meantime we formed a small group to work on this topic also in a Tas Force Gravitation. "We" Olivier Serret, Tufail, Abbas, Stavros Tassos, Nainan Varghese and me (Ruud Loeffen). Carl Johnson is external expert.</div><div><br></div><div>Good luck to you!</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards.</div><div><br></div><div>Ruud Loeffen.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 4:46 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jesus.sanchez.bilbao@gmail.com" target="_blank">jesus.sanchez.bilbao@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="#954F72"><div class="m_-7034974492678463931WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Dear Mike,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Thanks a lot for your link to the paper “How SI Units Hide…”. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">In that paper it is explained how the physics can be better understood changing the set of units from SI Units into a new type of units called TAPU units (relations to Planck quantities). It is, let’s say like a change of coordinates of the set of units.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The important thing is that during this change, in this new coordinate system it is discovered some relation between magnitudes normally hidden (viscosity with mass or velocity), space and acceleration with electromagnetic field parameters (like inductance for example).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I comment you that the papers from myself “Calculation of the gravitational...” and P.R. Silva “Links of Gravity...”, regarding the relation of G with the electromagnetic parameters, are not at all incompatible with that paper “How SI...”. Even, I show you some similarities below. The difference is that in the paper of the TAPU units, the relations are found during this change of coordinates and in the other papers some of them are really the core of them:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">-In the paper “Calculation of the gravitational...”, space is considered as composed by particles as photons (the carriers of the electromagnetic field). These photons permeate space and it is the uneven distribution of them which provokes gravity. In the paper “How SI units Hide...” it is explained, in different occasions, how space and velocities are considered to be related to the electromagnetic field (representing inductance or other EM parameters).. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">-In “How SI units Hide...” the mass (gravity) is considered to be an effect inherent to the viscosity of space. This is the same concept as an space composed by particles that permeate it, affecting the masses, as it is explained in “Calculation of the...”.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">-In “How SI units Hide...” relations of the different parameters using the fine structure constant and square roots of pi or 2 are commonly repeated (appeared due to the change of the unit system). In the “Calculation of the gravitational...”, you can see that this relation (square root of fine structure constant and 2) appears (coming form completely different calculations) also to relate G to the other electromagnetic parameters.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">So the three papers are not incompatible at all. Even, they seem complementary and that they support each other. Main difference is that “How SI Units Hide...” is made in TAPU units and most discoveries are made during the change from SI to TAPU.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">And “Calculations...” and “Links...” are made in SI units and the discoveries are made during different steps in a more “traditional” way, let’s say.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Thanks a lot for the paper “How SI Units Hide...”. It has been very interesting to see again how it is possible to arrive to the same conclusions using very different paths/methods.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Thanks and best Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Jesus Sanchez<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Message: 1<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 12:51:06 +0000 (GMT)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">From: "<a href="mailto:carmam@tiscali.co.uk" target="_blank">carmam@tiscali.co.uk</a>" <<a href="mailto:carmam@tiscali.co.uk" target="_blank">carmam@tiscali.co.uk</a>><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">To: <<a href="mailto:physics@tuks.nl" target="_blank">physics@tuks.nl</a>><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Subject: Re: [Physics] Fwd: Physics Digest, Vol 5, Issue 2<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Message-ID:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <28933528.629851486471866826.<wbr>JavaMail.defaultUser@<wbr>defaultHost><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<u></u><u></u></span></p><span class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Mike, I am answering to your<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">post, but this really is a general post, prompted by reading your link. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">We come across the phrase "The equivalence of<u></u><u></u></span></p></span><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">gravitational and inertial mass", mentioned in your link ?How SI Units<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hide the Equal Strength of Gravitation and Charge Fields? quite often, but the<u></u><u></u></span></p><span class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">phrase really is meaningless. Let me explain. Inertia is an illusion, there is<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">no such thing, therefore there is no "inertial mass", just mass. This was brought to my attention quite vividly a few years ago<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">when I drove a van with a sliding side door. Sometimes I would set off driving<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">with the side door open, and it would slide closed. The thought occurred to me<u></u><u></u></span></p></span><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">?That is inertia at work?. <u></u><u></u></span></p><span class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">A closer inspection however, reveals what is happening. As I<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">set off, looking at the side door (not good driving practice I know), I could<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">see that as I set off, the door remained stationary relative to the road until<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">it closed, then it moved with the van. What is happening here is that the door<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">(assuming perfect friction free runners), is having no force applied to it and<u></u><u></u></span></p></span><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">therefore does not move relative to the road. It is obeying Newton?s<u></u><u></u></span></p><span class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">first law and is quite simply left behind as the van moves. This gives rise to<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">the illusion that there is something resisting movement. There is not. As no<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">force is being applied, no movement is possible. QED.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> Tom Hollings.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">----Original Message----<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">From: <a href="mailto:mikelawr@freenetname.co.uk" target="_blank">mikelawr@freenetname.co.uk</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Date: 06/02/2017 22:28<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">To: <<a href="mailto:physics@tuks.nl" target="_blank">physics@tuks.nl</a>><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Subj: Re: [Physics] Fwd: Physics Digest, Vol 5, Issue 2<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Jesus,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The hyperlinkfor the paper is <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.4172/2090-0902.1000151" target="_blank">http://dx.doi.org/10.4172/<wbr>2090-0902.1000151</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Any questions, please ask.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Cheers<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Mike<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></span><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">-------------- next part --------------<u></u><u></u></span></p><span class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<u></u><u></u></span></p></span><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">URL: <<a href="http://mail.tuks.nl/pipermail/physics/attachments/20170207/fe5da6a8/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://mail.tuks.nl/<wbr>pipermail/physics/attachments/<wbr>20170207/fe5da6a8/attachment-<wbr>0001.html</a>><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Enviado desde <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986" target="_blank">Correo</a> para Windows 10</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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