<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Hello Jesus,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Your derivation of G from e/m parameters is really interesting. In the context of this derivation, I am interested to understand/probe for the physical significance of its parameters. Hence I would be greatful, if you may response to my below comments:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="vertical-align:baseline">>>When the number of particles increases in a region of space, the space itself increases in that region, making distances longer [5] in that region of space. When the number of particles decreases in the same region of space, the distances become shorter (the space reduces or shrinks) [5].</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="vertical-align:baseline"><i>Density of particle in a region resulting into increase or decrease of space, sound like as if ‘particle’ is cause responsible for effect as 'space warping’. Therefore particle and space are two different physical entities out there. Hence it is necessary that there should be a mechanism or physical law by which these two entities interact with each other, and we should be interested in discovering this mechanism.. Or otherwise , is it being suggested/assumed by this paper that particle made of energy/charge are somehow , one and same?</i></span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="vertical-align:baseline">>>Remember, that particles in this context mean not only mass particles but also force carriers, mainly photons that are everywhere in space</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="vertical-align:baseline"><i>Mass particles  differs from photons, in the sense that they travels at speed less than c. Will this difference account for any difference in type/orientation etc of the space that is associated/created with each kind of particles. Since the derivation is based only on electron and it's emitted photons, what further implications should we assume for other particles.</i></span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="vertical-align:baseline">>>Even with the not intuitive assumptions commented in chapter 1 and the assumptions considered to perform the calculations, the result is surprising anyhow…...The added value of this paper is that the theory leads to a calculation of G using only electromagnetic parameters that is a way of validating or at least giving some push to the theory.</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="vertical-align:baseline"><i>No doubt , this was a great paper trying to find a possible connection between electromagnetism and gravity and such endeavor should continue. Values matched, data fits in. In order to further validate the equation of G, we need to discover the physical significance of each of the parameters that is used in the equation. </i></span></p><i><br></i><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><i><span style="vertical-align:baseline">As on date we still don't know, what exactly/ physically does E=mc</span><span style="vertical-align:super">2</span><span style="vertical-align:baseline"> mean, or atleast their is no consensus in its physical meaning.</span></i></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="vertical-align:baseline"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="vertical-align:baseline">Regards,</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="vertical-align:baseline"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="vertical-align:baseline">Tufail </span></p></div><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 Feb 2017 11:33, "Jesus Sanchez" <<a href="mailto:jesus.sanchez.bilbao@gmail.com">jesus.sanchez.bilbao@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Dear David,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Welcome and thanks a lot for your kind words to my paper. I am glad you enjoyed it. Wishing to read yours,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best Regards,</div><div dir="auto">Jesus Sanchez</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote">El 10 feb. 2017 6:04 AM, "Sonic" <<a href="mailto:david@pantomimecorp.com" target="_blank">david@pantomimecorp.com</a>> escribió:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_9078702031437058268quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi Physics thinkers,<div><br></div><div>I’m very excited to join this Physics Group with Ruud’s invitation.  Thanks, Ruud!</div><div>Please let me know if I’m contributing correctly.</div><div><br></div><div>I’m Dr. David Levitt, MIT ScD.  I was a student of Prof. Marvin Minsky, founder of the Artificial Intelligence field.</div><div><br></div><div>Jesus, this is the first paper I’m looking at, and it’s very exciting to see G derived this way, including confirmation that the units are correct.</div><div><br></div><div>In a moment I’ll post a draft paper for simple relativistic Gravity, that could practically be derived from a dimensional analysis of G, so it’s likewise exciting to see a natural match.</div><div><br></div><div>Warm regards,</div><div>David Levitt</div><div class="elided-text"><div class="m_9078702031437058268elided-text"><div><br></div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 6, 2017, at 7:30 AM, Jesus Sanchez <<a href="mailto:jesus.sanchez.bilbao@gmail.com" target="_blank">jesus.sanchez.bilbao@gmail.co<wbr>m</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_9078702031437058268m_407606125750209245Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote">Dear Mike,</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Thanks for your answer. Do you have any paper/bibliography regarding that? The only dimensionless G I have found, is the parameter αG,  the gravitational coupling constant (Gme2/hc). This is not exactly G, as it has the mass of the electron included.</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">What the papers attached (Silva's and mine) deduct, is an equation that relates G with the fine structure constant αs (that depends on e, h, c and ε0). These are the first papers I have found, that relate the gravitational G with solely electromagnetic parameters with success. </div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">G = [(4π2 αs2 ħc) ∕ mp2] exp[ παs ∕ (2√2) – 1 ∕ (√2αs)]=6,67408 ×10− 11 m3 k g− 1 s− 2</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Thanks and best regards,</div><div class="gmail_quote">Jesús Sánchez<br>
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Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 08:50:30 +0000<br>
From: <a href="mailto:mikelawr@freenetname.co.uk" target="_blank">mikelawr@freenetname.co.uk</a><br>
To: <<a href="mailto:physics@tuks.nl" target="_blank">physics@tuks.nl</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Physics] Citation of Calculation of the Gravitational<br>
        Constant G Using Electromagnetic Parameters<br>
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Jesus,<br>
<br>
If you use dimensional analysis, you will find that G is a<br>
dimensionless constant that can be eliminated from all equations by<br>
adjustment of SI units.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
<br>
On 04.02.2017 20:20,<br>
<a href="mailto:jesus.sanchez.bilbao@gmail.com" target="_blank">jesus.sanchez.bilbao@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Dear Doctors,<br>
><br>
> I inform<br>
that my paper "Calculation of gravitational constant G using<br>
electromagnetic parameters" (email below) has been cited in the attached<br>
publication:<br>
><br>
> "Links of Gravity with Electromagnetic and Weak<br>
Couplings at Low Energies" by P. R. Silva (Universidade Federal de Minas<br>
Gerais).<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://rxiv.org/abs/1701.0613" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://rxiv.org/abs/1701.0613</a> [1]<br>
><br>
><br>
<a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312897107_Links_of_Gravity_with_Electromagnetic_and_Weak_Couplings_at_Low_Energies" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.researchgate.net/p<wbr>ublication/312897107_Links_of_<wbr>Gravity_with_Electromagnetic_a<wbr>nd_Weak_Couplings_at_Low_Energ<wbr>ies</a><br>
[2]<br>
><br>
> In this publication it can be read in page 2 the following:<br>
<br>
><br>
> "This paper is largely inspired in a previous one published by<br>
Jes?s S?nchez<br>
><br>
> [2], and entitled: "Calculation of the gravitational<br>
constant G using<br>
><br>
> electromagnetic parameters". The results obtained<br>
in section 2, reproduces<br>
><br>
> S?nchez result [2], but we have used an<br>
alternative path as a means to get<br>
><br>
> it."<br>
><br>
> So in the attached<br>
paper, it is obtained the same result as equation for G (obtained in my<br>
paper), but using a different method.<br>
><br>
> Thanks and best regards,<br>
><br>
<br>
> Jes?s S?nchez<br>
><br>
> Enviado desde Correo [3] para Windows 10<br>
><br>
><br>
DE: <a href="mailto:jesus.sanchez.bilbao@gmail.com" target="_blank">jesus.sanchez.bilbao@gmail.com</a> [4]<br>
> ENVIADO: viernes, 30 de<br>
diciembre de 2016 10:39<br>
> PARA: <a href="mailto:physics@tuks.nl" target="_blank">physics@tuks.nl</a> [5]<br>
> ASUNTO:<br>
Calculation of the Gravitational Constant G Using<br>
ElectromagneticParameters<br>
><br>
> Dear all,<br>
><br>
> I am glad to inform you<br>
about the publication of the paper "Calculation of the Gravitational<br>
Constant G Using Electromagnetic Parameters" . I hope you enjoy it!<br>
Abstract and link to the journal below.<br>
><br>
> Thanks and best regards,<br>
<br>
><br>
> Jes?s S?nchez<br>
><br>
><br>
<a href="http://www.scirp.org/Journal/PaperInformation.aspx?PaperID=73131" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.scirp.org/Journal/P<wbr>aperInformation.aspx?PaperID=7<wbr>3131</a> [6]<br>
><br>
<br>
> ABSTRACT<br>
><br>
> In this paper, we will derive the following formula<br>
for the value of the gravitational constant _G_: (1). This equation has<br>
only 0.81% error compared to the common accepted value [1]. The<br>
parameters in the equation are the following: the fine structure<br>
constant, _q_ the elementary charge, the mass of the electron, the<br>
permittivity of the free space, _e_ the exponential function and the<br>
relation between a circumference and its diameter. Values attached: [2],<br>
[1], [1], [1], [3], [4], (Planck constant) [1], (speed of light) [1]. As<br>
it can be checked, all of them are electromagnetic or mathematical<br>
constants and properties of the electron. No constant related to gravity<br>
has been used to arrive to this value. This formula has only 0.81% error<br>
numerically and has the correct units. And it is the output of this<br>
paper. To get to this formula, we will consider space as being composed<br>
by the particles that occupy it. These particles include mass particles<br>
and force carriers (as photons). The non-uniform distribution of these<br>
particles creates distortions in space. These distortions create the<br>
warping of space, making gravity appear as an emergent phenomenon.<br>
Having in mind these considerations for a special case (an isolated<br>
electron emitting photons) we get to this formula that validates the<br>
assumptions.<br>
><br>
> KEYWORDS<br>
><br>
> Quantum Gravity [7], Concept of Space<br>
[8], Gravitational Constant [9], Emergent Gravity [10], Size of a Photon<br>
[11]<br>
><br>
> CITE THIS PAPER<br>
><br>
> S?nchez, J. (2017) Calculation of the<br>
Gravitational Constant _G_ Using Electromagnetic Parameters. _Journal of<br>
High Energy Physics, Gravitation and Cosmology_, 3, 87-95. doi:<br>
10.4236/jhepgc.2017.31012 [12].<br>
><br>
> Enviado desde Correo [13] para<br>
Windows 10<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Links:<br>
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[1] <a href="http://rxiv.org/abs/1701.0613" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://rxiv.org/abs/1701.0613</a><br>
[2]<br>
<a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312897107_Links_of_Gravity_with_Electromagnetic_and_Weak_Couplings_at_Low_Energies" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.researchgate.net/p<wbr>ublication/312897107_Links_of_<wbr>Gravity_with_Electromagnetic_a<wbr>nd_Weak_Couplings_at_Low_Energ<wbr>ies</a><br>
[3]<br>
<a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://go.microsoft.com/fwlin<wbr>k/?LinkId=550986</a><br>
[4]<br>
mailto:<a href="mailto:jesus.sanchez.bilbao@gmail.com" target="_blank">jesus.sanchez.bilbao@gm<wbr>ail.com</a><br>
[5] mailto:<a href="mailto:physics@tuks.nl" target="_blank">physics@tuks.nl</a><br>
[6]<br>
<a href="http://www.scirp.org/Journal/PaperInformation.aspx?PaperID=73131" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.scirp.org/Journal/P<wbr>aperInformation.aspx?PaperID=7<wbr>3131</a><br>
[7]<br>
<a href="http://www.scirp.org/Journal/articles.aspx?searchCode=Quantum+Gravity&amp;searchField=keyword&amp;page=1&amp;SKID=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.scirp.org/Journal/a<wbr>rticles.aspx?searchCode=Quantu<wbr>m+Gravity&amp;searchField=keyw<wbr>ord&amp;page=1&amp;SKID=0</a><br>
[8]<br>
<a href="http://www.scirp.org/Journal/articles.aspx?searchCode=+Concept+of+Space&amp;searchField=keyword&amp;page=1&amp;SKID=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.scirp.org/Journal/a<wbr>rticles.aspx?searchCode=+Conce<wbr>pt+of+Space&amp;searchField=ke<wbr>yword&amp;page=1&amp;SKID=0</a><br>
[9]<br>
<a href="http://www.scirp.org/Journal/articles.aspx?searchCode=+Gravitational+Constant&amp;searchField=keyword&amp;page=1&amp;SKID=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.scirp.org/Journal/a<wbr>rticles.aspx?searchCode=+Gravi<wbr>tational+Constant&amp;searchFi<wbr>eld=keyword&amp;page=1&amp;SKI<wbr>D=0</a><br>
[10]<br>
<a href="http://www.scirp.org/Journal/articles.aspx?searchCode=+Emergent+Gravity&amp;searchField=keyword&amp;page=1&amp;SKID=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.scirp.org/Journal/a<wbr>rticles.aspx?searchCode=+Emerg<wbr>ent+Gravity&amp;searchField=ke<wbr>yword&amp;page=1&amp;SKID=0</a><br>
[11]<br>
<a href="http://www.scirp.org/Journal/articles.aspx?searchCode=+Size+of+a+Photon&amp;searchField=keyword&amp;page=1&amp;SKID=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.scirp.org/Journal/a<wbr>rticles.aspx?searchCode=+Size+<wbr>of+a+Photon&amp;searchField=ke<wbr>yword&amp;page=1&amp;SKID=0</a><br>
[12]<br>
<a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.4236/jhepgc.2017.31012" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://dx.doi.org/10.4236/jhep<wbr>gc.2017.31012</a><br>
[13]<br>
<a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://go.microsoft.com/fwlin<wbr>k/?LinkId=550986</a><br>
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