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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D">Dear Tufail Abbas,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D">Thanks for your kind words. I hope the equations come through in this pdf version.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D">randy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman""> Physics
[mailto:physics-bounces@tuks.nl] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tufail Abbas<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 6, 2017 12:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> General Physics and Natural Philosophy discussion list <physics@tuks.nl><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Physics] Physics Digest, Gravitational Waves<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Randy,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Your paper is really interesting!!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I can see that your paper has lot of hidden equations.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Could you please share the version of paper with those equations included.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tufail Abbas <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 6 Oct 2017 7:37 pm, "Randy O. Wayne" <<a href="mailto:row1@cornell.edu">row1@cornell.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Dear Carl Johnson,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I think that even if the wavelength of gravitational waves were 3 x 10^6 m and they traveled at 3 x
10^8 m/s, it would only take 0.01 s to pass through a detector. For other reasons I favor La Sage gravitation over general relativity. I am attaching a paper of mine that is in press.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thank,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Physics [mailto:<a href="mailto:physics-bounces@tuks.nl" target="_blank">physics-bounces@tuks.nl</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:cj@mb-soft.com" target="_blank">cj@mb-soft.com</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 6, 2017 10:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:physics@tuks.nl" target="_blank">physics@tuks.nl</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Physics] Physics Digest, Gravitational Waves</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Some of you guys in this group might have an ideal opportunity to become known.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Recently, the Nobel Prrize Committees showed how "political" their decisions are and where actual science is not that
important to them. They gave some Nobel Prizes in Physics regarding Gravitational Waves that have allegedly been detected.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Please look into the following. The Newtonian Gravitational formula is essentially identical to the Coulomb's Law
formula. Gravitational mass instead of electrical charge and the value of the Constant arre the only differences. Everyone knows the similarity of Electromagnetism and Gravitation, where gravitation is so relatively weak by a factor of trillions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">About fifteen years ago, I did the math regarding both of them. You guys can do it as well, and I am sure you will
be as surprised as I was at the math results.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">It is easy to calculate that for electromagnetism, we can see an "entire wave" of microwaves in a fraction of a billionth
of a second. Simple Physics.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Fifteen years ago, I did that same simple math for gravitation, and I found that "one wave length" clearly takes many
thousands of years to complete. Yes, gravitational waves certainly DO exist, but they are SO large that in anyone's life, no one can witness even a tiny fraction of "one wavelength". Specifically, if a gravitational wave was passing through our region right
now, a single wave is currently in the Orion Belt stars and here at the same time. Yes, that gravitational wave must carry incredible Energy in it, but to try to DETECT such a wave is clearly essentially impossible.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">A wavelength of thousands of light years, and a frequency of a single wae per thousands of years.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Those Researchers never bothered to mention such frequency or wavelength. The Nobel Committee never had a clue of
this enormous difficulty regarding any experiment to try to detect any sinusoidal wave that is so huge and slow. If anyone would (or will) ever notice this wavelength and frequency issue, they would see how impossible it is for us humans to detect such things
(even though I certainly agree that they exist.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">If ANY ONE would do the Math and inform the Nobel Committee about this issue, they would see the "emptiness" of such
a specific Nobel Prize. Why don't one of you do that?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I certainly respect the work of many of my fellow Physicists. But hadn't Nobel considered awarding a Prize to those
two "physicists" who had claimed to produce "cold fusion" some time back. It was only after actual Physicists examined those clasims that it became obvious that the claim was foolish. Unfortunately, this is probably again the situation regarding detecting
Gravitational Waves.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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