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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D">Dear Tufail,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D">What I have to say to answer your questions depends on my model of the photon. You may or may not accept it.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D">I think that the photons created as the beginning of the universe have very very long wavelengths—and actually act as gravitons:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D"><a href="http://labs.plantbio.cornell.edu/wayne/pdfs/gravitons.pdf">http://labs.plantbio.cornell.edu/wayne/pdfs/gravitons.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D">About photons in general:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D">If the emitter (creator of the photon) does has a charge, and I am assuming that charges do exist, then the E and B fields
should be out of phase. In my model of the photon, the photon is neutral, although the neutrality comes from the sum of equal and opposite charges—yes my photon is not an elementary particle but a composite where the two particles are complementary in terms
of charge, parity and mass (as opposed to time). In this photon, the E and B fields remain a quadrature out of phase. See my model of the photon here: http://labs.plantbio.cornell.edu/wayne/pdfs/whatisaphoton.pdf<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:physics-bounces@tuks.nl] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tufail Abbas<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 1, 2017 2:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> General Physics and Natural Philosophy discussion list <physics@tuks.nl><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Physics] EM waves<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear Randy,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>>>>>Maxwell made a simplification that makes no sense to take seriously in terms of mechanism.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Saying that Maxwell"s simplification makes no sense is ok. But saying that it should not be taken seriously sound a bit unreasonable. Possibly (div E=0) carry some special meaning in physical context and not absence of source. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Every wave has a time period T. What would be the nature and properties of wave with a time period equal to the Age of the Universe?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Actually there are many issues about Electricity and Magnetism, which still makes limited sense, particularly the unit of Electrical Charge itself. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have never directly detected the charge except by measuring the force(which can easily be expressed in terms of kg, meter and second) between current carrying conductors. So why do we have a new unit of charge called Coulumb. Is it only
because, in early nineties, square root of mass and square root of length made no sense? Or possibly it was difficult assign a physical meaning to square of a second? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have accepted that time as a physical parameter is same like space, so we call it space-time? Therefore, if square of a length means area, then why can't square of a second have similar meaning? I am really interested to know that why
it does not makes sense , if so?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tufail Abbas.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1 Dec 2017 8:01 pm, "Randy O. Wayne" <<a href="mailto:row1@cornell.edu" target="_blank">row1@cornell.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Art,<br>
The E and B are only in phase when there is no source of the wave (div E = 0). Because there is always a source of the waves div E > 0 (as you see in antennas). Maxwell made a simplification that makes no sense to take seriously in terms of mechanism.<br>
I ended my class today with two quote from Maxwell:<br>
I hope that I have fulfilled James Clerk Maxwell's goal as a teacher. He wrote, "In this class, I hope you will learn not merely results, or formulae applicable to cases that may possibly occur in our practice afterwards, but the principles on which those formulae
depend, and without which the formulae are mere mental rubbish. I know the tendency of the human mind is to do anything rather than think. But mental labour is not thought, and those who have with labour acquired the habit of application often find it much
easier to get up a formula than to master a principle."<br>
And<br>
Maxwell also wrote, "My duty is to give you the requisite foundation and to allow your thoughts to arrange themselves freely. It is best that every man should be settled in his own mind, and not be led into other men's ways of thinking under the pretence of
studying science. By a careful and diligent study of natural laws I trust that we shall at least escape the dangers of vague and desultory modes of thought and acquire a habit of healthy and vigorous thinking which will enable us to recognise error in all
the popular forms in which it appears and to seize and hold fast truth whether it be old or new."<br>
Thanks,<br>
Randy<br>
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Randy Wayne,<br>
Providing a Second Opinion on Scientific Issues Since 1982<br>
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<a href="http://labs.plantbio.cornell.edu/wayne/" target="_blank">http://labs.plantbio.cornell.edu/wayne/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Physics [mailto:<a href="mailto:physics-bounces@tuks.nl" target="_blank">physics-bounces@tuks.nl</a>] On Behalf Of Hans van Leunen<br>
Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 10:06 AM<br>
To: General Physics and Natural Philosophy discussion list <<a href="mailto:physics@tuks.nl" target="_blank">physics@tuks.nl</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Physics] EM waves<br>
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This only happens in conditions in which the total change of the underlying field equals zero. It is a general feature of all basic fields. See The Mother of all Field Equations.
<a href="http://vixra.org/abs/1709.0324" target="_blank">http://vixra.org/abs/1709.0324</a> Greetings, Hans<br>
>----Origineel Bericht----<br>
>Van : <a href="mailto:art@funkhouser.ch" target="_blank">art@funkhouser.ch</a><br>
>Datum : 01/12/2017 15:49<br>
>Aan : <a href="mailto:physics@tuks.nl" target="_blank">physics@tuks.nl</a><br>
>Onderwerp : [Physics] EM waves<br>
><br>
>Hi,<br>
><br>
>When I first learned about E and B fields, I was told that the E field<br>
>is at its maximum when the B field is changing the most rapidly.<br>
><br>
>And the same for the B field.<br>
><br>
>This would imply that the E and B vectors in a plane polarized EM wave<br>
>would be shifted 90° in phase.<br>
><br>
>Maxwell's equations, though, predict that they would be in phase (i.e.,<br>
>no phase shift).<br>
><br>
>If the energy of an EM wave is proportional to E^2 (also to B^2), then<br>
>it (the energy) would be pulsed (if they are in phase).<br>
><br>
>Apparently EM waves start out from an antenna with a 90° phase shift<br>
>(near field) and are later in phase (far field).<br>
><br>
>As the EM wave proceeds from the near field to the far field, the E<br>
>vector and the B vector must slowly shift phase in order to end up<br>
>being in phase.<br>
><br>
>At some time this must have been experimentally verified.<br>
><br>
>Can someone point me to the paper (maybe even in the 1800s) where this<br>
>was shown to be true?<br>
><br>
>Or later replication(s)?<br>
><br>
>Thank you.<br>
><br>
>Best,<br>
><br>
>Art Funkhouser, Bern, Switzerland<br>
><br>
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