<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Carl,</div><div><br></div><div> Regarding my own Sagnac effect experiments, I have been building and running experiments with fiber optic gyroscopes now for about 8 years or so, there have been many experiments, the most elaborate of which was a 6 month study I did in 2015 monitoring subtle changes in the magnitude of the Sagnac effect measured diurnally in a rotating interferometer, using wireless data transmission captured in Excel. Just doing a fast check, I had 1718 files from that experiment alone. For reference, here is a paper describing one of my fiber optic gyroscope designs: <br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://vixra.org/abs/1506.0002">http://vixra.org/abs/1506.0002</a></div><div><br></div><div>I also sell them online: <a href="https://skyhunt.net/fiber-optic-gyroscope-kit-fully-assembled/">https://skyhunt.net/fiber-optic-gyroscope-kit-fully-assembled/</a> <br></div><div><br></div><div>You should try it, maybe I am acting like a positivist but there is nothing better than seeing it with your own eyes...<br></div><div><br></div><div>Can I get my Nobel prize now, please? : ) <br></div><div><br></div><div>Doug<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:03 PM <<a href="mailto:cj@mb-soft.com">cj@mb-soft.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">You guyas make various "statements" as thoiugh they
have been proven to be true. For example, "moving clocks go slower".
That is a popular idea, but it has never been experimentally been seem to be
true. Your comment is BASED on an assumption which is NOT true, that ONLY
Special Relativity exists, and that you are free to totally ignore the existence
of General Relativity. Physicists know that you cannot do that.
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">You also accuse me of making two statements that I
would never make. Please experimentally describe the "thousands of times"
you have "observed" the Sagnac effect. If that is actually TRUE then you
certainly deserve a Nobel.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">And I see that you hjave adopted Trump's "fake
news" accusations. Are you claiming that I "imagined" two airliners
which wenbt arounf the world in 1971? That I somehow "dreamed it
up"? Feel free to access the NASA database with the RESULTS of that
experiment. Their RESULTS </font> <font size="2" face="Arial">show that
the NASA (friends of mine) had totally neglected ANY General Relativity.
NASA totally ACCEPTED tghat the sets of FOUR cesium clocks in each airliner did
NOT agree with each other. They acknowledged that the "error factors"
between the various pairs od clocks were GREATER than the "result" that they had
hoped to detect. In other words, the experiment was FAULTY and it
necessarily failed. It also failed for an entirely separate second reason,
that of NASA neglecting to try to do any math regarding GR. It is sort of
hilarious that people STILL think they are free to ignore GR in trying to
do that math. I am onplly one of HUNDREDS of Physicists and mathematicians
who have done that math "correctly". You are free to INCLUDE the
Equivalency factor in that math where you would see WHY the Hafele-Keating
experiment was doomed to failure.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">But it is a lot easier to just claim that "I"
made up FAKE NEWS, which saves you the effort of actually doing the math, or
even looking at NASA's data.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">YOUR understandong of Sagnac, is EITHER far beypnd
the thousands of us Physicisrs and Mathematicians where you deserve a Nobel, or
you need to apply much better logic in trying to understand juast WHAT Sagnac
is</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">It's too bad that your group was not around to
"teach" me that I was WASTING fifteen years of my life in studying advanced math
and physics. THEN you would be free to dream up whatever you want to
believe. I had even provided a link to a wonderful hundred pages of Notes
from a 1997 "Introductory Course". I guess you didn't waste your time in
trying to understand that math.. </font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Carl Johnson</font></div>
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