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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Your group thinks about some intereating
questions. It troubles me that you rarely seem to explore the actual math
toward finding solutions, and you tend to "speculate" regarding assumptions
that you like.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>What you are now calling "gravitational time
dilation" used to be called "General Relativity" and the Equivalency
principle. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>For around 12 years (since 2006), I have tried to
suggeat a rather simple experiment to some of my fiends at NASA, as well as
people at the ESA and JAXA. In a soft-landing on the Moon, just include a
generic Cesium clock, absolutely identical to one which remains in a
laboratory here on Earth. And provide a radio communications between
the two clocks. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The elliptic orbit of the Moon requires a constant
adjustment regardinng the transmission delay, but that is easy to do
accurately.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>MY conclusion regardinng your subject is based on
Einstein's Equivalency principle. The experiment's' question would be
whether the two clocks remained synchronized or whether either of them ran
faster than the other (due to Equivalence). As I understand Einstein's
reasoning "the gravitational Equivalence effect" should require the
Earth clock to run at 10,976 EXTRA ticks every hour (essentially due to the
greater gravitational field strength here compared to that pn the
Moon)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>"Everyone" (including all of you) ASSUME that there
would be some "time dilation" that would show. Fine, if that was
what that (simple) experiment would show. But if Einstein was right about
GR and more specificaally, the Equivalency concept, I would expect that
experiment to show exactly the OPPOSITE time rate effect fom what "all experts"
expect. I use EITHER of the two Equivalency equations, either "1 + (a *
d/2)/c^2)" or the more precise version "(SQR ((1 + v^2/c^2)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Both of these equations predict that the Earth
clock should tick 10,976 times FASTER (due to our stronger gravitational field
strength here).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Whenever someone does that experiment, we may know
for sure if GR is actually true. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>In any case, if the two clocks would be
synchronized, that woulld force one conclusion (that Einstein was
wrong). If the Earth clock ran slower, then you can be fee to argue as to
causes of the time dilation. But I am confident that Einstein was
basically right about GR, and that Equivalency is also true. In that case,
virtually all current assumptions would have to be corrected.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Carl Johnson</FONT></DIV>
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