<div dir="ltr">Hello Doug.<div><br></div><div>Thank you for the link to Halton Arp. He is on the list of <a href="http://editionsassailly.com/liste_diss_alpha/climont%20full%20list%20A%20htm.htm">Jean de Climont<font color="#000000"> too</font></a><font color="#000000">.</font><br><span id="gmail-docs-internal-guid-056b16da-7fff-ed86-2106-7a4ef9d736e9"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(152,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Mr. Halton Arp was deceased in 2013.</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(152,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(152,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">“ As Dr. Arp’s colleagues lost patience with his quest, <b>he was no longer invited to speak at major conferences</b>, and his observing time on the mighty 200-inch telescope began to dry up. Warned in the early 1980s that his research program was unproductive, he refused to change course. Finally, he refused to submit a proposal at all on the grounds that everyone knew what he was doing. He got no time at all.”.</span><a href="https://youtu.be/9U-HJGhvN0w?t=2804" style="text-decoration-line:none"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Halton Arp's Interpretation of Galactic Redshift and Quasars</span></a></span> <br></div><div>I pay respect to this man.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards.</div><div>Ruud Loeffen.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 10:08 AM Doug Marett <<a href="mailto:dm88dm@gmail.com">dm88dm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Ilja,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Took a look at your links - yes, I was kind of thinking along those lines as well - that the surface emissions would be highly red-shifted due to extreme "time dilation" (or perhaps better to call it "clock dilation" ) but in my view any emitted light should still escape since the gravitational gradient would not steal the emission energy. So the stars, if they are not overly massive, might still emit in the microwave or RF range. And if less massive, they might just appear highly red-shifted for their distance from earth. I wonder if there is a connection with this kind of object and the ejected quasars from galactic cores that are described by Halton Arp: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U-HJGhvN0w" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U-HJGhvN0w</a> since these quasars also have peculiar redshifts and appear to originate from the parent objects currently considered to be black holes. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div>Doug<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 9:41 PM Ilja Schmelzer <<a href="mailto:ilja.schmelzer@gmail.com" target="_blank">ilja.schmelzer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">2019-02-18 3:48 GMT+06:30, Doug Marett <<a href="mailto:dm88dm@gmail.com" target="_blank">dm88dm@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
> Chapline's<br>
> alternative idea seems even stranger though - dark energy stars.<br>
<br>
There are more alternatives. Essentially all theories of massive<br>
gravity have such frozen stars instead of black holes, in particular<br>
Logunov's Relativistic Theory of Gravity.<br>
<br>
My generalization of the Lorentz ether to gravity has the same too.<br>
See <a href="https://ilja-schmelzer.de/gravity/BH.php" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ilja-schmelzer.de/gravity/BH.php</a><br>
<br>
See also <a href="https://ilja-schmelzer.de/gravity/abyss.php" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ilja-schmelzer.de/gravity/abyss.php</a> for other<br>
evidence in this direction.<br>
<br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2"><b>Ruud Loeffen</b></font><div><a href="http://www.human-DNA.org" style="font-size:12.8px" target="_blank">http://www.human-DNA.org</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div>