[Physics] Aether theory discussion

Fri Dec 16 21:11:22 CET 2016

Mike,

All that you have mentioned sounds logical and it seems that this theory
can be supplemented with geometry of model of  Big Bathroom Universe.

Except the following statement which is not clear :

>>>>Where the loops have more or less tan three pairs, the result is dark
matter.

What does this mean? Kindly elaborate?

On 16 Dec 2016 22:13, <mike at mlawrence.co.uk> wrote:

Tufail,

Although Arend and I are in a sort of general agreement about the aether
level, we disagree in that I say that what he describes as a fluid-like
substance is actually composed of only one type of fundamental particle
overlapping its anti-particle. When the pair overlap completely, there is
nothing observable - effectively nothing there. But when partially
overlapped, there are mass and charge fields that exist. Because charges
produce electric fields there are electric fields everywhere and the units
of electric field and viscosity are the same (when adjusted correctly as
shown in my earlier paper). So the 'aether' can be frictionless in places
and yet produce friction on average.

The same fundamental particle  and anti-particle pair, when no longer
overlapped, chase/are chased by each other and latch onto other such pairs.
These chains then catch their own tails to form loops, which are like
doughnuts where instead of a continuous material rotating (spinning), it is
the pairs which are in motion. The loops, with three pairs, are our
fermions. So our matter. And not to far from the vortex ideas being
discussed elsewhere.

So the aether and matter are both composed of the same fundamental
particles and anti-particles. Overlapping gives a complete range of
strength from zero to a maximum. The size of the loops gives a frequency,
which translates into a mass for the loops. Where the loops have more or
less tan three pairs, the result is dark matter.

The action of viscosity in the aether is important when considering the
photon.A photon is an electron loop and  a positron loop where the two
loops are rotating in te same sense and each particle in one loop is
overlapping with an anti-particle in the other loop. The result is that the
six pairs formed are chasing/being chased across the two loops in exactly
the same way as they are chasing around each loop. So the photon is an
electron chasing a positron (or vice versa) to a maximum terminal velocity
set by the amount of viscosity in its path. This termnal velocity is what
we call light speed and the amount of viscosity depends on the amount of
mass present at that point.

So I hope you can see that if you start at the lowest level and consider
how to produce all the particles and effects we observe, you can do so with
only one type of fundamental particle/anti-article, two types of energy and
three dimensions of space. I posted my latest paper which explains in much
more detail, with formulae etc, a few days ago. Happy to take questions.

Cheers

Mike

On Dec 15 2016, Tufail Abbas wrote:

*I would be greatful, if the proposer of the aether theory could answer to
couple of questions as below*

*>>>>>>>>All of space is filled with a fluid-like substance called aether,*
*which can, in first approximation, be modeled as an ideal,*
*frictionless, compressible fluid in continuum fluid dynamicsapproximation.*

*Are the properties (that has mentioned above) of the proposed aether
isotropic?*

*Is matter fundamentally different from the proposed aether, or is it that

aether and matter just differ in their vector orientation wrt each other in
some physical /mathematical sense.*

On 15 December 2016 at 07:22, Ruud Loeffen wrote:

> Arend wrote:
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> *So, my proposal would be to start with a basic hypothesis:All of space is
> filled with a fluid-like substance called aether,which can, in first
> approximation, be modeled as an ideal,frictionless, compressible fluid in
> continuum fluid dynamicsapproximation.From there, we can re-derive
> Maxwell's equations by application of theLaplacian / Helmhotz
decomposition

> of the aether flow velocity field[v]. This exercise show that there is a
> term dA/dt in the definitionfor the electric scalar potential field Phi,
> whereby the units ofmeasurement do not match the other terms in the
> equation and shouldthus be deleted.That's where we are now.*

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> I followed the discussions about Maxwell equations and the quantum
> particles with interest. I have to admit that I am not capable to critic
or
> improve what is deliberated here on these subjects. But the above
quotation
> triggers me to join in on the point of the aether flow velocity field [v].
> In Mind-blowing gravitation I stated that the aether is very likely to
play
> an important role on gravitation/expansion. Now the discussion also
> concerns the vortex phenomena as shown in the very interesting video
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnbJEg9r1o8&authuser=0
> This video makes me think about another video about vortex that concerns
> our solarsystem: "The helical model - our solarsystem is a vortex."
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> In "Mind-blowing Gravitation" I predicted that the velocity [v] is 12278
> m/s or in v^2: *1,5075532E+08 m2/s2 * In the Lorentz Transformation this

> generates the Expansion Constant 8,38689562243644E-10 wich is equal to the
> Gravitational Constant (6,67407947753269E-11) times 4 PI
> .
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> *The exact velocity point 12278 m/s lies between Jupiter and Saturn. **The
> Trojans share Jupiterâ€™s orbit, and are always about 60 degrees ahead
of, or

> behind, Jupiter. These are the Lagrangian points L4 and L5. At these
> points, the gravity of Jupiter and the Sun balance out, forming a sort of
> gravity island. L4 and L5 are stable, meaning that an asteroid that strays
> from the precise balance point will tend to return to that point. **
https://plus.google.com/collection/07wZf
> *

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> Now I wonder if there could be any connection between the "[v] of Arend"
> and the [v] of Mind-blowing gravitation.
> I extended my prediction in Mind-blowing Gravitation with a small part of
> the calculations that I made about the velocity of the planets, the
> equations G.M equals v^2 times D (distance) and the factor v^2/c^2
> If you want to read more about it please follow this link to my dropbox:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/03yrwkf5z7hhprg/Mind-blowing%20Gra
> vitation.%20RMM%20Loeffen%2025%20Nov%202016.pdf?dl=0
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> This is the latest version. See the "Prediction" page 68.
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> Best regards.
> --
> *Ruud Loeffen*

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