[Physics] Physics Digest, Gravitational Waves

Mon Oct 9 04:07:05 CEST 2017

Helllo Randy.

Thank you for your interesting and well written paper. I liked also the
short history about *"Le Sage's hypothesis and the atmosphere in which his*
*hypothesis was considered".*

I have a question regarding your paper. You wrote: *"**weight and
gravitational acceleration can be understood in terms of Euclidean space
and Newtonian time—a commonsense alternative to the general theory of
relativity"* Do you mean  that relativity effects due to accelerated
velocity (or orbital velocity) are not applicable and that the Lorentz
Transformation of Mass Energy (as from Julian Schwinger) are not involved.
Do you conclude that the measurements in the LHC (where Kinetic Velocity is
converted to Mass) are fake?
You wrote: "*Thomson [24], one of the founders of the second law of
thermodynamics, realized that if “the gravific corpuscles leave…with less
energy than they had before collision, their effect must be to continually
elevate the temperature throughout the whole mass. The energy which must be
attributed to the gravific corpuscles is so enormously great, that this
elevation of temperature would be sufficient to melt and evaporate any
solid, great or small, in a fraction of a second of time.” Thomson [24]
could solve this paradox by assuming that the gravific corpuscles were not
mathematical points but were capable to carrying with them significant
amounts of rotational and vibrational energy" *
Do you think that it is possible that the gravitons insert a part of their
energy to the surface area of the Mass (and inwards) and that this Mass is
increasing? I think about the theory of Stavros Tassos, that the Mass of
the earth is increasing and that we can measure this at the surface of the
earth. See his paper: The Model of the Oceanic Crust with this direct link:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3rzUqJwR5KpYktpZ241NzdYRDQ

Best regards.

Ruud Loeffen.
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On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Randy O. Wayne <row1 at cornell.edu> wrote:

> Dear Tufail Abbas,
>
> Thanks for your kind words. I hope the equations come through in this pdf
> version.
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> Thanks,
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> randy
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> *From:* Physics [mailto:physics-bounces at tuks.nl] *On Behalf Of *Tufail
> Abbas
> *Sent:* Friday, October 6, 2017 12:39 PM
> *To:* General Physics and Natural Philosophy discussion list <
> physics at tuks.nl>
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> *Subject:* Re: [Physics] Physics Digest, Gravitational Waves
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> Dear Randy,
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> Your paper is really interesting!!
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> I can see that your paper has lot of hidden equations.
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> Could you please share the version of paper with those equations included.
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> Thanks,
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> Tufail Abbas
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> On 6 Oct 2017 7:37 pm, "Randy O. Wayne" <row1 at cornell.edu> wrote:
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> Dear Carl Johnson,
>
> I think that even if the wavelength of gravitational waves were 3 x 10^6 m
> and they traveled at 3 x 10^8 m/s, it would only take 0.01 s to pass
> through a detector. For other reasons I favor La Sage gravitation over
> general relativity. I am attaching a paper of mine that is in press.
>
> Thank,
>
> Randy
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> *From:* Physics [mailto:physics-bounces at tuks.nl] *On Behalf Of *
> cj at mb-soft.com
> *Sent:* Friday, October 6, 2017 10:57 AM
> *To:* physics at tuks.nl
> *Subject:* Re: [Physics] Physics Digest, Gravitational Waves
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>
>
> Some of you guys in this group might have an ideal opportunity to become
> known.
>
>
>
> Recently, the Nobel Prrize Committees showed how "political" their
> decisions are and where actual science is not that important to them.  They
> gave some Nobel Prizes in Physics regarding Gravitational Waves that have
> allegedly been detected.
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>
>
> Please look into the following.  The Newtonian Gravitational formula is
> essentially identical to the Coulomb's Law formula.  Gravitational mass
> instead of electrical charge and the value of the Constant arre the only
> differences.  Everyone knows the similarity of Electromagnetism and
> Gravitation, where gravitation is so relatively weak by a factor of
> trillions.
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> About fifteen years ago, I did the math regarding both of them.  You guys
> can do it as well, and I am sure you will be as surprised as I was at the
> math results.
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> It is easy to calculate that for electromagnetism, we can see an "entire
> wave" of microwaves in a fraction of a billionth of a second.  Simple
> Physics.
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> Fifteen years ago, I did that same simple math for gravitation, and I
> found that "one wave length" clearly takes many thousands of years to
> complete.  Yes, gravitational waves certainly DO exist, but they are SO
> large that in anyone's life, no one can witness even a tiny fraction of
> "one wavelength".  Specifically, if a gravitational wave was passing
> through our region right now, a single wave is currently in the Orion Belt
> stars and here at the same time.  Yes, that gravitational wave must carry
> incredible Energy in it, but to try to DETECT such a wave is clearly
> essentially impossible.
>
>
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> A wavelength of thousands of light years, and a frequency of a single wae
> per thousands of years.
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> Those Researchers never bothered to mention such frequency or wavelength.
> The Nobel Committee never had a clue of this enormous difficulty regarding
> any experiment to try to detect any sinusoidal wave that is so huge and
> slow.  If anyone would (or will) ever notice this wavelength and frequency
> issue, they would see how impossible it is for us humans to detect such
> things (even though I certainly agree that they exist.)
>
>
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> If ANY ONE would do the Math and inform the Nobel Committee about this
> issue, they would see the "emptiness" of such a specific Nobel Prize.  Why
> don't one of you do that?
>
>
>
> I certainly respect the work of many of my fellow Physicists.  But hadn't
> Nobel considered awarding a Prize to those two "physicists" who had claimed
> to produce "cold fusion" some time back.  It was only after actual
> Physicists examined those clasims that it became obvious that the claim was
> foolish.  Unfortunately, this is probably again the situation regarding
> detecting Gravitational Waves.
>
>
>
> Carl Johnson
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