[Physics] Is Gravitational Mass Really Same as Inertial Mass

[Ruud Loeffen]

Welcome to this forum, Tufail.

I met you on Quora and pointed you to this forum because we discuss here
this topic i.a.
Please have a look at the archive list for contributions of Olivier Serret.
I wrote about it in this message:

[Physics] mass increase and Lorentz Transformation
*Ruud Loeffen* rmmloeffen at gmail.com
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*Fri Nov 25 06:44:13 CET 2016*

So have a look in the archive of november. From there you can follow the
discussion. Olivier Serret also states a difference between gravitational
mass and inertial mass.
We want to start this topic in January.

Best regards.

Ruud Loeffen.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Tufail Abbas <tufail.abbas at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Gents,
>
> As per equivalence principle, and we have measured too,  that
> gravitational mass and inertial mass are same. Do we really have any proof
> these two masses are also same in essence, or they are just observed impact
> of some two co-existing properties(of same value) of space which can be
> separated in principle as gravitational and inertial mass.
>
> *My arguments are as follows:*
>
> We have measured gravitational mass  and inertial mass in case of object
> made of matter, or to be more precise the objects made of *whole atom*.
> Then we found that gravitational mass and inertial mass are same for all
> atoms. Then we generalized this outcome to make the same conclusion with
> particles of light called photons. For me this logic is like comparing
> apple to oranges.
>
> Any object that has a gravitational mass or in other words it produces
> gravitational attraction, are invariably made of charges, so far as  I am
> aware. In case of neutron also,  we know that it is only the net charge
> on it that is zero. Otherwise they are made of quarks which has charge. In
> addition to charge, neutron and proton also have charge-less particles like
> gluons and z-boson.
>
> One the other hand we are aware that charge-less particles, like photon do
> get attracted to gravitational attraction, hence no gravitational mass.
> Yeah have find an alternate explanation of this attraction as space-time
> warping. But why we are sure that photon do not have inertial mass.
>
> *My proposal/hypothesis*:
>
> Gravitational and Inertial Mass are caused by two distinct and separate
> co-moving properties of space called *charge* and *energy. Charge *is responsible
> for gravitational mass and *charge-less energy*  is responsible for
> inertial mass.
>
>    1.
>
>    All forces of the universe are caused by an specific geometry and
>    orientation of charges, and gravity is also not an exception. It is just
>    cause due to a special geometry of charges. In other words property of atom
>    that is producing gravitational attraction is charge. We are also aware
>    that in case of atom total charge(not net charge) is proportional total
>    mass. Hence any impact caused due to charge can always be expressed as
>    impact due to mass by including a proportionality factor.
>    2.
>
>    If charge is producing the attractive force, then what is that which
>    is getting attracted.  That property of atom is energy without charge
>    or the inertial mass. And photon as an energy is no exception that it is
>    getting attracting to gravitational charge. Oops! It’s generally called
>    gravitational mass.
>
> Are there any  methods/arguments/experimental data which can falsify
> above arguments and hypothesis. Alternatively, what are the stuffs
> supporting the above  hypothesis.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Tufail Abbas
>
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