[Physics] Clock time vs. common sense time

[Doug Marett]

Hi Ilja,

  Here is a better discussion of Sustantivalism in the context of
relativity:
http://ls.poly.edu/%7Ejbain/philrel/philrellectures/07.Consequences.pdf


Doug

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Doug Marett <dm88dm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ilja,
>
> Sorry, didn't have my glasses on - the correct spelling is
> "Substantivalist". or "Substantivalism" -  the believe that spacetime and
> its parts are fundamental constituents of reality, which is the fundamental
> axiom of relativity.  http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/9055/
> On the other hand, Presentism  is the opposite view, that neither the past
> nor the future exist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> Philosophical_presentism
> I am happy to hear that you are a Presentist, but then, are you not in
> direct opposition to views of relativists?
>
> Doug
>
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> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Ilja Schmelzer <
> ilja.schmelzer at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have never heard the word "subvantivalism", so that I don't know
>> what to expect from them and cannot comment.  I'm a presentist.
>>
>> I simply defend the mainstream / GR as far as this is possible,
>> because I think it is essential for those who criticize the mainstream
>> not to criticize it for the wrong reasons.
>>
>> If correctly understood, GR is in no way in contradiction with common
>> sense.  It makes the positivistic error to deny the existence of what
>> cannot be directly measured.  And, to get rid of the "unmeasurable"
>> absolute time, introduces a whole spacetime.  But one should not
>> criticize GR which are quite reasonable, unproblematic, and compatible
>> with common sense.
>>
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