[Physics] Start up Task Force Gravitation group
Norm Silliman
silliman at mindsync.com
Tue Jan 17 20:11:45 CET 2017
Hi Doug,
Questioning authority is one method I know of that gives us a
chance to learn new stuff. The Relativity
Paradigm has had a 'strangle hold' on the Physic world for a 100 years.
So it is a nice thing when Han will talk to me. Exchanging
questions is a good thing. I thought his response
was a little blunt (but not necessary rude).
Thanks for understanding my counter comment. Since I can't counter
his/their math, I am stuck with logic
and examples of evidence.
Best Regards,
Norm
On 1/16/2017 12:40 PM, Doug Marett wrote:
> Hi Norm,
>
> I agree with you Norm! I actually felt that Han's initial response
> to you was unnecessarily rude : )
>
> Doug
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Norm Silliman <silliman at mindsync.com
> <mailto:silliman at mindsync.com>> wrote:
>
> Hans van Leunen,
>
> Thank you for the observation (and for the pun). If the
> Gravity Model (part of Physics), needs to be done
> with multidimensional differential calculus, why has a 100 years
> gone by and the multidimensional differential
> calculus people (there is estimated 1000's of them) failed to do
> the job. And they didn't even get shamed for
> failing.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Norm
>
>
> On 1/16/2017 4:26 AM, Hans van Leunen wrote:
>> Norman Silliman,
>> You have silly thoughts. If there is one part of physics that
>> cannot do with proper mathematical models, then it is gravity and
>> especially inertia.
>> So if you want to dive into that subject then you better learn
>> enough about multidimensional differential calculus. If you do
>> not want to do that, then you better select a different hobby
>> because with gravity without math you can only make a fool of
>> yourself.
>> Sincerely yours,
>> Hans van Leunen,
>> docs.com/hans-van-leunen <http://docs.com/hans-van-leunen>
>>
>> ----Origineel Bericht----
>> Van : silliman at mindsync.com <mailto:silliman at mindsync.com>
>> Datum : 16/01/2017 00:04
>> Aan : physics at tuks.nl <mailto:physics at tuks.nl>
>> Onderwerp : Re: [Physics] Start up Task Force Gravitation group
>>
>> To Mr Abbas, Serret and Loeffen,
>>
>> I am interested in participating in this topic of
>> gravity. I bring a group of experimental evidence that
>> I find useful for me to narrow down the possibilities of what
>> 'Gravity is' and how 'Gravity works'.
>> BUT I come to you with grave doubts in the utility of
>> Mathematics to build theoretical models.
>>
>> And since gravity 'looks' exactly like rocket
>> acceleration and centrifuge acceleration, the topic of gravity
>> may bleed off into references of 'forces'.
>>
>> Norman Silliman
>>
>> On 1/15/2017 6:18 AM, Ruud Loeffen wrote:
>>
>> Dear colleagues.
>>
>> As announced earlier in my Email October 23 2016 I want
>> to join forces on the topic of gravitation. I got
>> confirmation from 3 members. So, we are ready to start.
>>
>> We:
>>
>> *Tufail Abbas:*Writer of Big Bathroom Universe- The
>> universe is made of an stationary cubic lattice structure
>> through which space and time moves, resulting into all
>> matter and energy that we see. By developing this
>> framework of cubic lattice structure it has been
>> envisioned that it would possible to express all physical
>> properties (i.e. space, time, energy, charge, momentum,
>> temperature, velocity, force etc.) in terms of the
>> geometric parameters (i.e. length, surface area, volume,
>> angle, orientation, cycles) of the base structure. The
>> force of gravity or any other force is caused due to
>> movement of space through mass (or charge) to extra
>> dimensions which is apparently observed as the state of
>> rest in our optically visible dimensions.
>> *Olivier Serret:*engineer, holds up a neo-Newtonian
>> approach: basically, it is the Newtonian mechanics,
>> except than gravitational mass is different from the
>> inertial mass. It allows to demonstrate the Lorentz
>> factorγ, a new rule for the velocities addition, the
>> synchrotron radiation and the perihelion precession of
>> Mercury(/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3xZ5r1hi9s/
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3xZ5r1hi9s>/). /The
>> interest of this theory is to be in coherence withthe
>> universal time of the Quantum Mechanics (and of course of
>> the Newtonian mechanics).
>> *Stavros Tassos:*Writer of the Excess Mass Stress
>> Tectonics - EMST model, whereby the waving at light speed
>> c=299792458 m/s and under constant stretching space is
>> the infinite source of all mass. Energy and matter are
>> sine waveforms of local anisotropy in the elastic,
>> large-scale isotropic continuum, which is lossless and
>> has infinite elasticity to any velocity lower than c, and
>> infinite rigidity to any velocity equal or greater than
>> c. Earth's inner core is an equilibrium high
>> tension-frequency location, wherein energy - unpaired
>> standing or travelling waves transform into matter -
>> paired standing waves which are added, in a solid-state,
>> atom-by-atom around the core.*//*
>>
>> *Ruud Loeffen:*The central question of my studies has
>> always been “How does the human mind perceive the
>> surrounding world and regulate the interaction between
>> human beings and the environment?” Another item I studied
>> is gravitation and cosmology, writing a booklet about
>> this: "Mind-blowing Gravitation. Gravitation equals
>> expansion" to demonstrate the possibility that the
>> Lorentz transformation of mass-energy could play a key
>> role in expansion of matter. To gain cooperation on the
>> topic of Gravitation I support this start up on Gravitation.
>>
>> *
>> *
>>
>> *Our purpose:*
>>
>> 1.We will form a *“Task Force Gravitation” *with 4 – 7
>> members with a widespread range of sciences. Members of
>> this Task Force are willing to*share their
>> criticism**about the current explanations of
>> Gravitation**, and exchange their ideas, equations and
>> calculationsabout Gravitation**. Members also must be
>> willing to let lose the own theory*. (period: January 16
>> - February 1)
>>
>> 2.We will prepare a document *“Startup Gravitation”* that
>> should provide a brief overview of status regarding
>> understanding of gravity and the proposed way forward. We
>> will try to create a new paper. Probably we need some
>> elements of different theories to put together. Some
>> parts to combine, some parts to throw away, some parts to
>> change. (period February 1 - April 1)
>>
>> 3.We will write a document *“Foundation for gravitation”. *
>> It's about macro objects and elementary particles,
>> radiation, waves and the aether field. Macro and micro
>> should connect as gravity starts at the center of the
>> nucleus and extends to farthest region of the Universe.
>> Most important aim is to find *irrefutable evidence* for
>> this theory that gives solid base and is understandable
>> for laymen and journalists.(period April 1 - December 1)
>>
>> We welcome somebody with knowledge of following
>> mathematical stuff as related to physics: Vector Algebra,
>> Riemann Geometry, Complex Numbers, Various derivations of
>> Pi, Circumference of Ellipse, Zeta Function, Hilbert Spaces.
>>
>> possible connections with theories of other members:
>>
>> a)Constant length of photon and transformation from
>> Euclidean to space-time format; Hans van Leunen
>>
>> b)acceleration and gravitation; Mike Lawrence
>>
>> c)aether and field; vortex phenomena Arend Lammertink
>>
>> We will welcome members who want to join this Task Force.
>> Please pay attention to point 1: "Members also must be
>> willing to let lose the own theory”.
>>
>>
>> From January 16 - February 1 we aim to make our group
>> definitive.
>> In the next step *“Startup Gravitation” * (period
>> February 1 - April 1) I will make a list of questions
>> for step 2, that the members can edit also. To continue
>> to step 3 (the document) we will make an outline for the
>> document with all relevant chapters and especially we
>> will try to find *irrefutable evidence* for this theory
>> that gives solid base and is understandable for laymen
>> and journalists. (period April 1 - December 15).
>>
>> If we want to change the steps 1 -3 or to change the
>> periods, we can do also. For every step members of the
>> TFG are invited to help determine the outlines.
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Ruud Loeffen on behalf of Tufail Abbas, Olivier Serret,
>> Stavros Tassos.*
>>
>>
>>
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