[Physics] Start up Task Force Gravitation group

Mon Jan 16 19:40:12 CET 2017

Hi Norm,

    I agree with you Norm! I actually felt that Han's initial response to
you was unnecessarily rude : )

Doug

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Norm Silliman <silliman at mindsync.com>
wrote:

> Hans van Leunen,
>
>     Thank you for the observation (and for the pun).  If the Gravity Model
> (part of Physics), needs to be done
> with multidimensional differential calculus, why has a 100 years gone by
> and the multidimensional differential
> calculus people (there is estimated 1000's of them) failed to do the job.
> And they didn't even get shamed for
> failing.
>
>         Best Regards,
>
>         Norm
>
>
> On 1/16/2017 4:26 AM, Hans van Leunen wrote:
>
> Norman Silliman,
> You have silly thoughts. If there is one part of physics that cannot do
> with proper mathematical models, then it is gravity and especially inertia.
> So if you want to dive into that subject then you better learn enough
> about multidimensional differential calculus. If you do not want to do
> that, then you better select a different hobby because with gravity without
> math you can only make a fool of yourself.
> Sincerely yours,
> Hans van Leunen,
> docs.com/hans-van-leunen
>
> ----Origineel Bericht----
> Van : silliman at mindsync.com
> Datum : 16/01/2017 00:04
> Aan : physics at tuks.nl
> Onderwerp : Re: [Physics] Start up Task Force Gravitation group
>
> To Mr Abbas,  Serret and Loeffen,
>
>     I am interested in participating  in this topic of gravity.  I bring a
> group of experimental evidence that
> I find useful for me to narrow down the possibilities of what 'Gravity is'
> and how 'Gravity works'.
> BUT I come to you with grave doubts in the utility of Mathematics to build
> theoretical  models.
>
>      And since gravity 'looks' exactly like rocket acceleration and
> centrifuge acceleration, the topic of gravity
> may bleed off into references of 'forces'.
>
>     Norman Silliman
>
> On 1/15/2017 6:18 AM, Ruud Loeffen wrote:
>
> Dear colleagues.
>
> As announced earlier in my Email October 23 2016 I want to join forces on
> the topic of gravitation. I got confirmation from 3 members. So, we are
> ready to start.
>
> We:
>
> *Tufail Abbas:* Writer of Big Bathroom Universe- The universe is made of
> an stationary cubic lattice structure through which space and time moves,
> resulting into all matter and energy that we see.  By developing this
> framework of cubic lattice structure it has been envisioned that it would
> possible to express all physical properties (i.e. space, time, energy,
> charge, momentum, temperature, velocity, force etc.)  in terms of the
> geometric parameters (i.e. length, surface area, volume, angle,
> orientation, cycles) of the base structure. The force of gravity or any
> other force is caused due to movement of space through mass (or charge) to
> extra dimensions which is apparently observed as the state of rest in our
> optically visible dimensions.
> *Olivier Serret:*engineer, holds up a neo-Newtonian approach: basically,
> it is the Newtonian mechanics, except than gravitational mass is different
> from the inertial mass. It allows to demonstrate the Lorentz factor γ, a
> new rule for the velocities addition, the synchrotron radiation and the
> perihelion precession of Mercury(
> *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3xZ5r1hi9s*
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3xZ5r1hi9s>*). *The interest of this
> theory is to be in coherence with the universal time of the Quantum
> Mechanics (and of course of the Newtonian mechanics).
> *Stavros Tassos:*Writer of the Excess Mass Stress Tectonics - EMST model,
> whereby the waving at light speed c=299792458 m/s and under constant
> stretching space is the infinite source of all mass. Energy and matter are
> sine waveforms of local anisotropy in the elastic, large-scale isotropic
> continuum, which is lossless and has infinite elasticity to any velocity
> lower than c, and infinite rigidity to any velocity equal or greater than
> c. Earth's inner core is an equilibrium high tension-frequency location,
> wherein energy - unpaired standing or travelling waves transform into
> matter - paired standing waves which are added, in a solid-state,
> atom-by-atom around the core.
>
> *Ruud Loeffen:* The central question of my studies has always been “How
> does the human mind perceive the surrounding world and regulate the
> interaction between human beings and the environment?” Another item I
> studied is gravitation and cosmology, writing a booklet about this:
> "Mind-blowing Gravitation. Gravitation equals expansion" to demonstrate the
> possibility that the Lorentz transformation of mass-energy could play a key
> role in expansion of matter. To gain cooperation on the topic of
> Gravitation I support this start up on Gravitation.
>
>
> *Our purpose:*
>
> 1.       We will form a *“Task Force Gravitation” *with 4 – 7 members
> with a widespread range of sciences. Members of this Task Force are
> willing to *share their criticism* *about the current explanations of
> Gravitation**, and exchange their ideas, equations and calculations about
> Gravitation**.  Members also must be willing to let lose the own theory*.
> (period: January 16 - February 1)
>
> 2.       We will prepare a document *“Startup Gravitation”* that should
> provide a brief overview of status regarding understanding of gravity and
> the proposed way forward. We will try to create a new paper. Probably we
> need some elements of different theories to put together. Some parts to
> combine, some parts to throw away, some parts to change. (period February 1
> - April 1)
>
> 3.       We will write a document *“Foundation for gravitation”. *
> It's about macro objects and elementary particles, radiation, waves and
> the aether field. Macro and micro should connect as gravity starts at the
> center of the nucleus and extends to farthest region of the Universe. Most
> important aim is to find *irrefutable evidence* for this theory that
> gives solid base and is understandable for laymen and journalists.
> (period April 1 - December 1)
>
> We welcome somebody with knowledge of following mathematical stuff as
> related to physics: Vector Algebra, Riemann Geometry, Complex Numbers,
> Various derivations of Pi, Circumference of Ellipse, Zeta Function, Hilbert
> Spaces.
>
> possible connections with theories of other members:
>
> a)       Constant length of photon and transformation from Euclidean to
> space-time format; Hans van Leunen
>
> b)      acceleration and gravitation; Mike Lawrence
>
> c)       aether and field; vortex phenomena Arend Lammertink
>
> We will welcome members who want to join this Task Force. Please pay
> attention to point 1: "Members also must be willing to let lose the own
> theory”.
>
>
> From  January 16 - February 1 we aim to make our group definitive.
> In the next step  *“Startup Gravitation” * (period February 1 - April 1)  I
> will make a list of questions for step 2, that the members can edit also. To
> continue to step 3 (the document) we will make an outline for the document
> with all relevant chapters and especially we will try to find  *irrefutable
> evidence* for this theory that gives solid base and is understandable for
> laymen and journalists.  (period April 1 - December 15).
>
> If we want to change the steps 1 -3 or to change the periods, we can do
> also. For every step members of the TFG are invited to help determine the
> outlines.
>
> --
> *Ruud Loeffen on behalf of Tufail Abbas, Olivier Serret, Stavros Tassos.*
>
>
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