[Physics] Physics Digest, Vol 19, Issue 5

Tufail Abbas tufail.abbas at gmail.com
Tue Dec 4 06:46:07 CET 2018


James,

My paradigm is also not limited to thermodynamics. It is also about
space-dimensions-information-transformation-transposition etc.

*I would pick up your following statement:*

So, what is REALLY happening with calculus - as a general operator?   Is
information dimensionally transformed (compressed; expanded), or, is
intrinsic information "dimensionally retained" .. just dimensionally
transposed?

*An then I supplement it with my following statement which I made in my
previous emails:*

Past is memory, Present is observable and Future is a possibility. In this
way all three can co-exist as piece of information at different coordinates
of space.

*Relationship between two statement:*

We do not only need the physical means to save the information, but we also
need to understand those  operators/operations that are continuously
transforming Future Information (that which has not happened) to Past
Information (which has happened), and Present being just the boundary or
surface at which Past and Future information interact so that we can
observe it. And then we have to ensure that despite interacting (at
Present), two kind of information should be separate enough so that we can
distinguish Future Information from Past Information. Therefore first level
classification is that we need two kind of format to save information:

1. Format suitable for saving Future Information
2. Format suitable for saving Past Information.

You discussed about QM and its statistical interpretation. Usually accepted
interpretation (i.e. Copenhagen Interpretation) is that
physical system GENERALLY do not have definite properties prior to being
measured/observed, which is different from relativity where outcome is not
dependent upon act of measurement.

So clearly there are two format of information, one suitable for memory(or
Past Information) and another suitable for saving probable/statistical
events(or Future Information).  The generalization of statistical QM
systems, for all systems is certainly an error, that has resulted into some
misinterpreted Multiverse concepts. If we just focus on what is observed
and interpret it without generalization and extrapolation, it become
apparent that

1. QM data / information is probabilistic hence Future Information, which
does not become reality unless it is observed or measured in Present.
2. All other data / information which is beyond QM Systems are Past
Information as it is no more remain probabilistic.

An Present is just the surface of observation sandwiched between Past and
Future Information

*Closing Statement:*

To close, I re-state the following statement, which I mentioned in a
previous emails:

Free-will as we observe, seems to be the exclusive property of living
matter, and You writing the email are a living matter. Life is a bit
complex under the domain of other subject of science, and any theories of
physics has not explained it. Physics theories can only say whether
freewill( or life) can effect small scale changes, allowed within an
Universe changing deterministically at large scale.  For Example: No
matter, how many emails You write, it will not change the fact that Earth
will complete one trip round Sun every year, which is a large scale change.
And Universe is much bigger than the Solar System.

Now, it is upto you how would like to connect all of the above or not :)

Regards,

Tufail

On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 at 01:36, James Rose <integrity at prodigy.net> wrote:

> Tufail,
>
> I have been meaning to write back to you and John .. from my
> investigations about systems dynamics, and mathematical interpretations.  I
> shall do that soon, as time permits, but for the moment, I want to comment
> on your closing question,
>
>        "What alternative 3-D truth exists which mathematically
> appears/behave as 4D continuum?"
>
> Superb question.  The possible answer requires a deeper analysis of
> mathematical relations - and - how they correspond with our
> intuited~experienced notion of 'dimensions', and, if information retains
> the same initial interpretations .. when .. we change frames of reference.
>
> We intuit einsteinian~reimann notions related to 'physical~temporal
> spaces'.   But no one has dissected if similar elastic relations or
> translations happen when we navigate alternative (adjacent) exponential
> 'frames of reference' (in mathematical senses).
>
> We assume that the math relations and physical relations map exactly, but
> from my analysis - that might not be the case.
>
> Examine calculus integration~differentiation for example (where in simple
> cases the most obvious effect is whole integer increase and decrease of
> exponents that result after a calculus operation is calculated).
>
> Area under a curve ; slope of a line at a point along a curve ; etc. eg.
> That is. the functions produce what look like totally -different- math
> information.
>
> Now, use polar trig calculus instead.   Such as X=r sin Theta  (a circle
> with a one perimeter point at (0,0).
>
> Integrate or differentiate the equation.   What results is x = r cosine
> theta  (+ or - depending on which operator).  Graph the result.
> The graph is a RETAINED circle ... that is ... exactly the same geometric
> "information" ... except:  transposed 90 degrees.
>
> So, what is REALLY happening with calculus - as a general operator?   Is
> information dimensionally transformed (compressed; expanded), or, is
> intrinsic information "dimensionally retained" .. just dimensionally
> transposed?
>
> I know this deduction is going to sound crazy .. but the answer to
> coordinating QM with relativity (where dimensions and continuums are
> freshly understood as more fundamental than the QM statistical mathematics
> which we currently rely on) ... resides in going back down into basic math
> definitions and correcting omissions and omitted interpretations.
>
> QM math - as well as it seems to work in physics descriptions - is
> effectively a 'work around', because humanity is struggling with a limited
> understanding of math~information~dimensions~continuum relations .. and is
> totally missing the relations about entropy -- which is -not- (in my
> paradigm) limited to only thermodynamics.  Entropy is applicable to
> gradients everywhere and that includes -fields- ... that have intrinsic
> differential strengths and values.  Fixation on thermodynamics is like
> chaining our minds to a limited fixed definition .. one and only one
> example form of 'entroepy'.     Even -those- analyses are larger and more
> complicated~inter-related.
>
> Just some 2018 'holiday' thoughts   :-)
>
> James
> integrity at prodigy.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ==================
>
> On Monday, December 3, 2018, 12:56:46 PM PST, Tufail Abbas <
> tufail.abbas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Tom,
>
> Usually I do not believe in criticizing unless an alternate possible
> solution is discussed. Relativity is a well formulated and widely accepted
> theory.
>
> So my question would be that if not Relativity then what?.
>
> Every theory is built upon certain basic assumption and if those
> assumptions are not actual truth, then it is certain that theory is in
> error.
>
> In case of relativity that assumption is  about the physical existence of
> a "body of reference"/ coordinate system  extending from -infinity to
> infinity for every moving body. The truth may be completely different from
> what Einstein has proposed.
>
> Quoting from the paper which you shared, Einstein himself admitted that:
>
> "In practice, the rigid surfaces which constitute the system of
> co-ordinates are generally not available ; furthermore, the magnitudes of
> the co-ordinates are not actually determined by constructions with rigid
> rods, but by indirect means. If the results of physics and astronomy are to
> maintain their clearness, the physical meaning of specifications of
> position must always be sought in accordance with the above considerations"
>
> Despite the above admission, he assumed as follows for formulation of his
> theory of relativity.
>
> "Every description of events in space involves the use of a rigid body to
> which such events have to be referred. The resulting relationship takes for
> granted that the laws of Euclidean geometry hold for "distances;" the
> "distance" being represented physically by means of the convention of two
> marks on a rigid body".
>
> We have to recognize that in  practice/reality , atmost only a 2-D surface
> is ever available as a rigid body of reference: like the surface of earth.
>
> Due the practical non-existence of such a "rigid body of
> reference"/"coordinate system" for 3-D, for all those applications to which
> relativity is related, the validity of the theory is doubtful if it is
> based upon such a coordinate system which assumes that.
>
> 1. All length intervals or distance between neighbouring points are
> equidistant.
> 2. All points of space are available(continue) for positioning a physical
> object made of matter.
>
> Indeed, maths should represent what is physical, and we should seek for
> truth of physically existing coordinate system that represent our reality,
> not the mathematical coordinate system assumed by Einstein.
>
> POSSIBLE ALTERNATE REALITY
>
> Physical properties of space are based on all kinds Fields that exists in
> that space. The existence and interaction  of Fields should possibly
> alter some configuration of space, so that length separation between
> neighbouring  "available points" are not same everywhere, but time interval
> is same.
>
> IMPLICATIONS OF PROPOSED ALTERNATIVE
>
> 1. Space is divided by equidistant time interval , hence time becomes
> absolute.
> 2. Space is not divided by equidistant length interval, hence it may still
> become possible to explain constant speed of light for all observers.
>
> RELATED QUESTIION
>
> What alternative 3-D truth exists which mathematically appears/behave as
> 4D continuum?
>
> Regards,
>
> Tufail
>
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