[Physics] Physics Digest, Vol 21, Issue 6

cj at mb-soft.com cj at mb-soft.com
Thu Dec 6 18:26:07 CET 2018


Your group thinks about some intereating questions.  It troubles me that you rarely seem to explore the actual math toward finding solutions, and you tend to "speculate" regarding assumptions that you like.

What you are now  calling "gravitational time dilation" used to be called "General Relativity" and the Equivalency principle.  

For around 12 years (since 2006), I have tried to suggeat a rather simple experiment to some of my fiends at NASA, as well as people at the ESA and JAXA.  In a soft-landing on the Moon, just include a generic Cesium clock, absolutely identical to one which remains in a  laboratory here on  Earth.  And provide a radio communications between the two clocks.  

The elliptic orbit of the Moon requires a constant adjustment regardinng the transmission delay, but that is easy to do accurately.

MY conclusion regardinng your subject is based on Einstein's Equivalency principle.  The experiment's' question would be whether the two  clocks remained synchronized or whether either of them ran faster than the other (due to Equivalence).  As I understand Einstein's reasoning  "the gravitational  Equivalence effect" should require the Earth clock to run at 10,976 EXTRA ticks every hour (essentially due to the greater gravitational field strength here compared to that pn the Moon)

"Everyone" (including all of you) ASSUME that there would be some "time dilation" that would  show.  Fine, if that was what that (simple) experiment would show.  But if Einstein was right about GR  and more specificaally, the Equivalency concept, I would expect that experiment to show exactly the OPPOSITE time rate effect fom what "all experts" expect.  I use EITHER of the two Equivalency equations, either "1 + (a * d/2)/c^2)" or the more precise version "(SQR ((1 + v^2/c^2)

Both of these equations predict that the Earth clock should tick 10,976 times FASTER (due to our stronger gravitational field strength here).

Whenever someone does that experiment, we may know for sure if GR is actually true.  

In any case, if the two clocks would be synchronized, that woulld  force one conclusion (that Einstein was wrong).  If the Earth clock ran slower, then you can be fee to argue as to causes of the time dilation.  But I am confident that Einstein was basically right about GR, and that Equivalency is also true.  In that case, virtually all current assumptions would have to be corrected.

Carl Johnson
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